Can Americas be removed off DLV6.2?

**Lord Ragnar** · February 20, 2010, 02:43 PM

Hi,and before you say it Use DLV-Europa. I'm kind of keen on the game plan,options etc DLV 6.2 has. Nothing wrong with Europa,let me say that first(I just cant get it to play on my system)But,DLV 6.2 has more depth to it.So is it a case of Europa been upgraded at some stage and will try,try,try and get it work on my feeble pc,or can I just delete "world is round" and nobody go there ah ah.

**Shadrach** · February 23, 2010, 06:04 AM

I agree, I loved the concept of DLV Europa but I also understand that it is hard to keep it up to date with the current release of DLV and all the good stuff coming to it.

Personally I have no interest at all in either conquering the Americas or playing the Aztecs... Even when playing Spain I rarely find it worthwhile to send forces all the way over there. I find the european mess of nations much more interesting. So I for one would be the first to applaud the removal of the Americas in favour of more provinces/factions in Europe. But it all boils down to the fact that it is Repman's decision.

**TaronQuinn** · February 24, 2010, 01:21 AM

HEY! I've had that idea/desire also. Its doubtful to be done on an official release, since the Americas seem to add some flavor to the game, many enjoy carving out an American mini-empire. I've looked into modding it myself, but there's so much to do: editing the map, reapportioning the settlements, revising the scripts, changing all the positions of forts, characters, resources to the new coordinates, removing all the Aztec stuff, scripts, units, symbols, references. That alone would probably dissuade Repman from doing. Why undo all the hard work of so many people? It'd take one very skilled person weeks to do it right, and several skilled persons only a little less time.

**Harry Lime** · February 24, 2010, 03:05 AM

It would be far easier to update Europa to include the 6.2/6.3 changes than to start afresh. I have already given permission for anyone to use my mod as a base for those changes if they are willing to undertake the work involved.

**Tokus*Maximus** · February 24, 2010, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

It would be far easier to update Europa to include the 6.2/6.3 changes than to start afresh. I have already given permission for anyone to use my mod as a base for those changes if they are willing to undertake the work involved.

I'll gladly address any 2D work involved if anyone wishes to make a non-Americas version and enhance Europa; updating the extra symbols, etc. The New World is such a fudged extra CA chucked in to make medieval sexier - I never bother with it. It's all in Europe at the time. Europa is a brilliant edition and deserves the active team members attention.

"You have my sword!"

-- Tokus

**Ahlerich** · February 24, 2010, 05:26 AM

and you have my bow. unfortunately i dont know how to use a bow. (lesser known quote of legolas)

**Marku** · February 25, 2010, 10:23 AM

yeah i'd also love to have DLV without america's, never have the time/motivation in-game to go there.

**Jaketh** · March 16, 2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Ahlerich

and you have my bow. unfortunately i dont know how to use a bow. (lesser known quote of legolas)

and my axe!! not really im not part of the mod team

**soulson** · February 25, 2010, 12:32 PM

Americas are a waste of space imo.

**TaronQuinn** · February 25, 2010, 08:07 PM

The only thing with editing DLV Europa is that I can rarely get it to work consistently, so I'd be unable to check my changes reliably.

Anyway, I'm trying something now. I've removed Kiowa Tribes, and put in Clermont in central France; gonna test it soon. If it works, I'm gonna move on to other provinces. Eventually reducing Aztecs to one province across all of the Americas; but I'm not sure if the 'Americas Colonization' events in the script will screw me up...any ideas.

btw, if I do succeed in removing said American province, anyone have sugestions for which provinces to add back in Europe? I have my own list, but I'd like to hear others just for the sake of conversation.

PS I have no intention/ability of removing Aztecs entirely. I'll leave that for someone else haha

**TMSKILZ** · February 26, 2010, 10:59 AM

Remove Americas & the boring Aztecs! replace them w/ more units for other factions & more provinces as well.
One unit worth adding is the AVIZ holy order for Portugal. Europe is where the bread & butter of Medieval is!

**Kjertesvein** · February 26, 2010, 12:43 PM

Anyone tried Furins mod and the americas improvement?

**Marku** · February 26, 2010, 01:57 PM

if we got rid of Aztecs who would we put in? maybe Serbia or something cool like that?

**ptg** · March 08, 2010, 05:18 PM

Yeah, maybe Serbia or Bulgaria? I think there is a mod on the way for Bulgaria - could say pretty please to them?

**repman** · March 09, 2010, 03:08 PM

america pro aeternitate est

repman

**drogoth232** · March 17, 2010, 06:05 PM

^Darn! Going to say that

dont forget my Staff! (not part of the team either).

But yeah I like DLV 6.2 but considering that Europa is so (not that it is bad) outdated it doesnt have ALL of the roleplay elements of 6.2.

**soulson** · March 17, 2010, 07:30 PM

Indeed I like what this mod has accomplished but cant stand the idea of the Americas. Would much rather see more European factions.

**Birzeti** · March 21, 2010, 06:00 AM

Why not get rid of the Americas and push the map eastward?

**Sarkiss** · April 01, 2010, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Birzeti

Why not get rid of the Americas and push the map eastward?

my thoughts exactly

**TaronQuinn** · March 21, 2010, 01:17 PM

Haha repman has spoken, America is eternal. But this isn't about advocating for the DLV 6.3 or 6.4 or 7.0 to delete the Americas, but trying, as players, to change files, maps, etc. to remove the Americas. And as Harry Lime and others have said. its more than a little tricky. I've been working for weeks off and on, and there's just too much intertwined script info and other stuff to really remove America and the Aztecs easily.