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    Default Greco-Brit provincial campaign

    I'm always moaning about more provincial campaigns, so I decided to try to make one myself... I re-visited my old obsession, Greeks in Britain, basing it on the Massilia campaign.




    As you can probably see, I'm not very good at this. What I know is pretty much what I gleaned from the tutorials. But hey, everybody starts somewhere right? It's incomplete, I don't know how to:
    - change the Massilia history thing in the p.c. selection screen
    - change the map in the faction selection screen

    Also, I tried changing the culture percentage at descr_regions in the provincial campaign's folder, but it's still at 100% barbarian. EDIT: deleting map.rwm did the trick.

    I'll probably attempt to add a couple of new provinces from what is now Britannia Superior next (Cornwall and Wales), maybe give the Indie Gauls more troops.

    Any pointers would be most appreciated, thanks.
    Last edited by Publius Quirinus; February 19, 2010 at 04:01 AM.


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    Default Re: Greco-Brit provincial campaign

    Interesting, very interesting.

    But Greeks in Britain? Seems a bit far-fetched, dontcha think? Well, there are theories that the Phoenicians traveled there, so I suppose anything's possible.
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    That's a fun idea.

    You what would be even more interesting? Creating Iceland and putting Greeks there. At least Greeks had a name for Iceland: Hyperborea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boriak View Post
    That's a fun idea.

    You what would be even more interesting? Creating Iceland and putting Greeks there. At least Greeks had a name for Iceland: Hyperborea.
    Actually, Iceland was discovered by Irish monks in the 8th century AD. Hyperborea was an area of far north Russia, possibly within the arctic circle because the sun never set there, hence the name Hyperborea. Just thought you should know for the future because some less friendly people here will tear you up for getting a historical fact wrong. Trust me, it's happened to me before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan the Man View Post
    Actually, Iceland was discovered by Irish monks in the 8th century AD. Hyperborea was an area of far north Russia, possibly within the arctic circle because the sun never set there, hence the name Hyperborea. Just thought you should know for the future because some less friendly people here will tear you up for getting a historical fact wrong. Trust me, it's happened to me before.
    I thought hearing it from two separate sources would be good enough to believe. Oh well, we learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boriak View Post
    I thought hearing it from two separate sources would be good enough to believe. Oh well, we learn.
    Uh huh. Just remember to be careful with your facts, especially on the debate forums. People can be very nasty sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan the Man View Post
    Interesting, very interesting.

    But Greeks in Britain? Seems a bit far-fetched, dontcha think? Well, there are theories that the Phoenicians traveled there, so I suppose anything's possible.
    it's not about accuracy.it's about our psychological need to have an orderly campaing ....you start at one end of the map,and work your way towards the other.the worst campaigns to play are those where you are surrounded on all sides by (potential) enemies.GSC is one of those,even so,the desire to play as GCS is huuuge.well,that's my view on things at leat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisarius500 View Post
    it's not about accuracy.it's about our psychological need to have an orderly campaing ....you start at one end of the map,and work your way towards the other.the worst campaigns to play are those where you are surrounded on all sides by (potential) enemies.GSC is one of those,even so,the desire to play as GCS is huuuge.well,that's my view on things at leat
    I see. Well, I haven't had this mod for long, so I'm still figuring things out. Pardon my n00biness.
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    Default Re: Greco-Brit provincial campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Belisarius500 View Post
    it's not about accuracy.it's about our psychological need to have an orderly campaing ....you start at one end of the map,and work your way towards the other.the worst campaigns to play are those where you are surrounded on all sides by (potential) enemies.GSC is one of those,even so,the desire to play as GCS is huuuge.well,that's my view on things at leat
    Yep, this. I just love Greek factions, and I have an inordinate fondness especially for Greek factions on the edge of civilization, like Baktria. Also, I
    like the units of XGM and the gameplay, but there are only that many ways to play the imperial campaign. Hopefully once I'm more confident with modding the files I can move on to maps of Sicily or Greece instead of making minor alterations of the IC.

    It's not supposed to be historically accurate, but I tried to make it plausible within the fictional premise (Greeks established a foothold in Britain). Hopefully it's still a fun campaign.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Oddly, I changed the campaign description tag from MASSALIA to CASSITERIDES and the faction selection screen seems to have reverted to the Massilia campaign one. I also added the new entries to lookup_campaign_description, but it didn't help. What did I miss? A lot of the tutorial entries seem to mention deleting map.rwm, do I need to do that?

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    lookup_campaign_description.txt
    Code:
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_JULII_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_JULII_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_SCIPII_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_SCIPII_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_BRUTII_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ROMANS_BRUTII_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRITONS_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_BRITONS_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_CARTHAGE_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_CARTHAGE_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_EGYPT_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_EGYPT_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GAULS_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GAULS_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GERMANS_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GERMANS_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_MACEDON_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_MACEDON_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PONTUS_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PONTUS_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELEUCID_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PARTHIA_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_PARTHIA_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_THRACE_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_DACIA_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_ARMENIA_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SCYTHIA_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_SPAIN_DESCR
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_TITLE
    IMPERIAL_CAMPAIGN_NUMIDIA_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ROMANS_JULII_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ROMANS_JULII_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ROMANS_SCIPII_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ROMANS_SCIPII_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ROMANS_BRUTII_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ROMANS_BRUTII_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_BRITONS_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_BRITONS_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_CARTHAGE_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_CARTHAGE_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_EGYPT_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_EGYPT_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_GAULS_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_GAULS_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_GERMANS_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_GERMANS_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_MACEDON_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_MACEDON_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_PONTUS_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_PONTUS_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SELEUCID_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SELEUCID_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SELEUCID_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SELEUCID_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_PARTHIA_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_PARTHIA_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_THRACE_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_THRACE_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_DACIA_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_DACIA_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ARMENIA_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_ARMENIA_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SCYTHIA_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SCYTHIA_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SPAIN_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_SPAIN_DESCR
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_NUMIDIA_TITLE
    BARBARIAN_INVASION_NUMIDIA_DESCR
    MASSALIA_TITLE
    MASSALIA_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    MASSALIA_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    BOSPORUS_TITLE
    BOSPORUS_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    BOSPORUS_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    CYRENAICA_TITLE
    CYRENAICA_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    CYRENAICA_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    SYRACUSE_TITLE
    SYRACUSE_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    SYRACUSE_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    EPIRUS_TITLE
    EPIRUS_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    EPIRUS_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    PERGAMON_TITLE
    PERGAMON_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    PERGAMON_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR
    GALATIANS_TITLE
    GALATIANS_GAULS_TITLE
    GALATIANS_GAULS_DESCR
    STEPPES_TITLE
    STEPPES_PARTHIA_TITLE
    STEPPES_PARTHIA_DESCR
    STEPPES_SCYTHIA_TITLE
    STEPPES_SCYTHIA_DESCR
    CAESAR_TITLE
    CAESAR_ROMANS_JULII_TITLE
    CAESAR_ROMANS_JULII_DESCR
    CASSITERIDES_TITLE
    CASSITERIDES_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE
    CASSITERIDES_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR


    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    campaign_descriptions.txt
    Code:
    {STEPPES_TITLE}Parthia and Scythia
    
    {STEPPES_PARTHIA_TITLE}Parthia
    {STEPPES_PARTHIA_DESCR}The Parthians are a nomadic people who conquered and settled in the area near the Caspian Sea in the 4th century BC as part of the Dahae confederation. Since that time the Parthians, under their Arsacid rulers (named after King Arsaces I), have fiercely maintained their independence. The Seleucids have, from time to time, claimed to be the overlords of Parthia and, from time to time, have actually been strong enough to try and enforce their claim. This is not something that endears the Seleucid Empire to the Parthian kings.\n\n 
    The Parthians have the potential to be a great power – perhaps a great Empire – as they sit close to or astride the main trade routes from the east to the Mediterranean. The wealth of the world flows through these lands: a fortune that could pay for any army that an ambitious king could imagine. This wealth is there for the taking, for the people with the will to stretch out their hands and grasp it. Historically, the Parthians managed to become a great power, and fight off the advance of Rome into their heartlands.\n\n 
    To the north are the barbarian steppes, peopled by fierce tribes who require watching. To the west, though, lie the Seleucid Empire and the lands of Alexander’s successors. These too are ruled by ambitious men. And beyond them, the rising power of Rome, and the traders of Carthage. Perhaps common cause could be made with them, for a while…
    
    {STEPPES_SCYTHIA_TITLE}Scythia
    {STEPPES_SCYTHIA_DESCR}The Scythians have long ruled the steppes and are famed for their superior horsemen, and especially for their cavalry archers. Although their traditional way of life is nomadic, they have long had contact with the more settled peoples of Greece in the west, and Persia in the east, so they are not unfamiliar with the civilised world. The vast distances of the steppes make infantry of little use to the Scythians, and the barren landscape makes agricultural and economic development difficult. Both can be considerable disadvantages in war but, all the same, room to move, and the fearsome skill of Scythian horsemen are advantage enough!
    
    {CAESAR_TITLE}    Julius Caesar
    
    {CAESAR_ROMANS_JULII_TITLE}Gaius Julius Caesar
    {CAESAR_ROMANS_JULII_DESCR}The die is cast. Rather than return to Rome to face a trial that will certainly end his political career, Gaius Julius Caesar has gambled everything on a bid to win power instead. With a legion of his veterens from the Gallic Wars he intends to cross the Rubicon and take Rome by force.
    
    {CASSITERIDES_TITLE}Cassiterides
    
    {CASSITERIDES_GREEK_CITIES_TITLE}Cassiteridic-Greek Kingdom
    {CASSITERIDES_GREEK_CITIES_DESCR}The Greeks of the Tin Isles have long been a place of exile for many a loser in dynastic struggles or political intrigue. For centuries the exiled Greeks have struggled to maintain their little enclave in an alien, hostile land determined to swallow them whole. But now the winds have shifted, and the Cassiteridic Greeks are united under a single hegemon. War against the might of the Trinovantes and Brigantes is a risky proposition, but victory would mean uncontested control over the entireity of the Tin Isles. And after that, an energetic and capable strategos could spread Greco-British culture well beyond the Tin Isles……

    EDIT: Yea, turns out I forgot to rename the campaign name at the start of the descr_strat. >.<
    Last edited by Publius Quirinus; February 19, 2010 at 03:59 AM.


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    Default Re: Greco-Brit provincial campaign

    It's not historically accurate but it sure can be fun. I've done a few relocation games as Bactra where I've used force diplomacy to swap my starting towns with Camulodenum and Darioritum. From that position you are essentially going to wedge yourself between Rome and Carthage as they expand. It makes for a tough and fun campaign.

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    Default Re: Greco-Brit provincial campaign

    Upload Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    Upload Please.
    Sorry for the delay, I was modding the map a bit more, and I broke it (didn't know I wasn't supposed to overwrite the tga files )... I'll upload it after I fix it. Probably tomorrow or the day after.


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    Default Re: Greco-Brit provincial campaign

    This looks cool. I'd love a provincial campaign in Britain.

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    Default Re: Greco-Brit provincial campaign

    Yay

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