can we have mod news please???

**novatech0** · February 17, 2010, 06:46 PM

i noticed people saying that this mod was comming out months ago, then before that months and months ago, is this mod still dead or alive, i havent heard anything new and havent seen any previews. we havent heard anything for months i think. all i ask for in this thread is more info and information on how the progress is going. i am realy disapointed when i go and look at these furoms to see the same stuff

. please updait ur progress on this furom please. ive been checking these furoms everyday for the past while now and i havent seen anything new or havent heard anything intresting. that would be great if u could give us a good detailed imormation on what u guys have so far and mabye screen shots. thank u!

**sumskilz** · February 17, 2010, 08:52 PM

Why would you think this mod is dead when we respond to every one of your posts? Plus, I update this thread every couple days: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...42#post6557142

There are no big previews in it, but unlike big previews, it doesn't take too much time away from me actually working on the mod.

**fenix3279** · February 17, 2010, 08:56 PM

You again? And what's with the same questions?...

*sigh* You've been told more than once that the mod will be released when it's ready. Any updates on this mod can be found in the Previews and Promotions board. If the Team felt they had anything we should see, they would've posted it there. Look OP, we know that you're estatic for this mod's release but you're going to have to deal with it and wait patiently just like the rest of us.

Now stop spamming.

**fenix3279** · February 17, 2010, 08:56 PM

Crap

Sumskilz beat me.

He's got some skills.

**novatech0** · February 17, 2010, 10:36 PM

hmm any mod news please post it and i already read all the posts months ago. not trying to be disrespectfull too. just asking thank u ! : )

**sumskilz** · February 17, 2010, 11:07 PM

i already read all the posts months ago

Are you sure? I posted new unit images yesterday, 5 days ago, 7 days ago, and 22 days ago, just to name a few. We are actually holding back a bit though because we are working a bigger preview.

**novatech0** · February 18, 2010, 12:49 AM

realy cool, ccan u give me links, and i wount bother u guys no more i havent seen a whole lot of new stuf, and i will be always apart of these furoms too, and hope to lern how to mod someday. yes and please post new info on tthis thread whenever u can. and yes keep ur good work up i wount bring this topic up againg. thank u and i am just concearned whats going on because i havent seen much. thank u!!!

**Hengest** · February 18, 2010, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by novatech0

realy cool, ccan u give me links

SERIOUSLY?! How big is the subforum for Dominion that you cannot find a clearly labelled section called PREVIEWS and not see the pinned threads there. No wonder you keep asking about updates.
PLEASE USE YOUR EYES

**sumskilz** · February 18, 2010, 12:57 AM

They are just shots from Milkshape, not actual screenshots. This one is the best IMO (but there are more throughout the thread): http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...77#post6698377

**pacco** · February 18, 2010, 11:39 AM

What is a problem with people like this guy?

Hello!!! We are doing this for FREE... for almost all of us this is only a hobby.
We have also our RL, family, jobs...
Try to create your own mod and you will see that is not easy.

**Copperknickers II** · February 18, 2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by novatech0

i noticed people saying that this mod was comming out months ago, then before that months and months ago, is this mod still dead or alive, i havent heard anything new and havent seen any previews. we havent heard anything for months i think. all i ask for in this thread is more info and information on how the progress is going. i am realy disapointed when i go and look at these furoms to see the same stuff

. please updait ur progress on this furom please. ive been checking these furoms everyday for the past while now and i havent seen anything new or havent heard anything intresting. that would be great if u could give us a good detailed imormation on what u guys have so far and mabye screen shots. thank u!

May i humbly suggest reading some of the new posts (last couple of weeks)? You might find them interesting.

**Vindahl** · February 19, 2010, 08:11 AM

Well, I am not trying to defend anybody here... I just hate that bad mood on this forum, where some people keep shouting for releases and the other part shout back 'done when it's done'
Anyway, if you guys took a look on the guy's english, I guess it isnt his native tongue! No hard feelings though, I am crap to english too

Or else, I think the guy might not be that old...
He might just glance on the topics, look for labels 'NEW PREVIEWS' and get dissapointed... For a guy who is bad at english, it is rare to look through old threads to find new stuff... I don't even do it myself, I look at the threads, no "big" news, and look away again... If this is the mentality, this forum seems VERY dead... And if you have little patience, and little knowhow, to how much work there is, you have someone like that who keeps asking for this...

I dont have much solutions for this, just bear in mind, that it is a very closed envirement where it is difficult to find the news you look for, and if you dont browse around through topics and read every post in every thread, this seems a little dead...

Not everybody is a master in browsing and maneuvering through the threads and folders here, and not everybody is good at english... Dont expect too much of us, think at us as fools and give us news so it is even clear for the kinds of us...
I hope I make myself clear...

Have a nice weekend everybody...

**Copperknickers II** · February 19, 2010, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Vindahl

He might just glance on the topics, look for labels 'NEW PREVIEWS' and get dissapointed... For a guy who is bad at english, it is rare to look through old threads to find new stuff... I don't even do it myself, I look at the threads, no "big" news, and look away again... If this is the mentality, this forum seems VERY dead... And if you have little patience, and little knowhow, to how much work there is, you have someone like that who keeps asking for this...

I really don't understand what you want us to do tbh. We have Sumskilz' unit thread which is updated weekly. We frequently and swiftly reply to any questions in the FAQ thread and other threads, in fact we post here nearly every day. It takes time to make a large preview, and it seems pointless to us to make large announcements every time we get a mention in ES etc, plus we'd rather spend time actually finishing the mod than making previews.

Lastly, we have dropped hints at least ten times in the past couple of months that a new preview is coming. Its nearly finished actually.

So to everyone: if you keep posting the same questions when the answers have already been given, then we will become annoyed, and people have to spend time answering them that they could use for modding. If however you be patient, and you will be rewarded.

**Vindahl** · February 20, 2010, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Copperknickers II

I really don't understand what you want us to do tbh. We have Sumskilz' unit thread which is updated weekly. We frequently and swiftly reply to any questions in the FAQ thread and other threads, in fact we post here nearly every day. It takes time to make a large preview, and it seems pointless to us to make large announcements every time we get a mention in ES etc, plus we'd rather spend time actually finishing the mod than making previews.

Lastly, we have dropped hints at least ten times in the past couple of months that a new preview is coming. Its nearly finished actually.

So to everyone: if you keep posting the same questions when the answers have already been given, then we will become annoyed, and people have to spend time answering them that they could use for modding. If however you be patient, and you will be rewarded.

Well, then perhaps you shouldnt be laying hints that you are about to post a HUGE preview!
If you dont like the style where you inform the forum with updates, then you should not have started it at first! Then you would have A LOT more time to mod, right!?
If you dont have anything to sell, then perhaps you shouldnt be adwertising like you do...

To draw a parralel... If you have a blog on the web, you update it very frequently, otherwise people might think it's dead and ask questions... So if you feel you dont have time for that, then you shouldnt make a blog at all...!!! Same thing here...

It is also difficult to understand who is who on the forum! The team is huge, but when there is different people posting small updates, it is impossible to know if it is serious or not!
I have the view on things that Hross is the creator, but it is rare we hear from him... Sumskilz seem to be a skinner, and post minor posts with pictures of swords and stuff... And that's it! There is a whole folder where it seems a lot of people post about cities and settlements, but it is impossible to see if they work for the mod or just come up with ideas!
If you ask a question, there keep coem answers from different people... Perhaps we "expect" that some hotshot from the mod is showing himself and stand behind the previews, as well as the hints of upcoming previews!

And last, dont threaten people and scare them away from asking questions, like "you will be annoyed"...
if you cant handle to be a proffessional modder and keep a reasonable conversation with people on this forum, no matter how dumb their questions are, then stop modding to the public... Then you should mod for yourself...

**Seleukos_I.** · February 20, 2010, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Vindahl

And last, dont threaten people and scare them away from asking questions, like "you will be annoyed"...
if you cant handle to be a proffessional modder and keep a reasonable conversation with people on this forum, no matter how dumb their questions are, then stop modding to the public... Then you should mod for yourself...

The problem is that novatech0 keeps asking the same questions every week in the last two months.
It's perfectly understandeable if some memebers of the mod team get annoyed of this behaviour.

**Vindahl** · February 20, 2010, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Seleukos_I.

The problem is that novatech0 keeps asking the same questions every week in the last two months.
It's perfectly understandeable if some memebers of the mod team get annoyed of this behaviour.

I know, it is of course annoying...
But I think that they should act a little more mature, either answer him back politely or just ignoring him, and let other people answer the obvioius things most already know...
I just think it is so stupid to act mad and annoyed, loose their temper on a public forum! Come on, dont talk down to other people, even if they ask stupid questions all the time... Take the time to inform them, or else PM them and take the discussion somewhere else, where you can ask him why he is so impatient and that it actually is annoying for you!
Cause what I saw, he didnt mean to be rude...
Just think about it...

**Hengest** · February 20, 2010, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Vindahl

And last, dont threaten people and scare them away from asking questions, like "you will be annoyed"...
if you cant handle to be a proffessional modder and keep a reasonable conversation with people on this forum, no matter how dumb their questions are, then stop modding to the public... Then you should mod for yourself...

Yeah thanks for the lessons in running a mod. Looks like we won't be bothering to run any PR until we release a preview for you all then, thanks to reactions such as this. A preview which incidentally is slowing us down on releasing the final product and in fact giving you something to enjoy.
I find it rather irritating that you say that we shouldn't talk down to people, but we haven't we have merely asked him to use the forums which are clearly titled. You however are clearly talking down to us. Sending PMs with personal explanations and information is not going to happen since we just don't have the time to deal with the volume of requests we get. I for one (and not the only mod member that does this) get around 20 PMs a week asking for information that is normally posted here anyway. These PMs are on top of the PMs I have in running a team of over 30 people with different jobs. Furthermore, I get bribes, threats, and insults-- all of which are in fact seriously meant. You have no idea what a drain on our energy this is. It is not only here at TWC either, but at ModDB, at Youtube and so on. As regards Novatech as one person I thinkk you will find he has posted not in one thread but in several usually totally off topic, and he has done this regularly over a period of several months. I think it is quite insulting given the time and energy we obviously take to keep good PR with our fans and supporters of whom we are very proud and grateful to have, to claim as you do that we are abusing our fans and not being mature or professional. Feel free to join our team and take over the PR role to free us up to work on the mod.
Thank you again.

You will note that I am now closing this thread finally, although it should have been closed some time ago but we kept it open to in fact try to communicate with our fans in a mature and professional manner. However I am not going to subject myself nor my team mates to this kind of 'feedback.' Thread closed.