Bribing....

[karsten]

What should i do to improve the chances or success and how much should i have in my wallet before trying a bribery attept at a city or at a general?

thanks in advance!

[Bloodzen]

Depends on the general, some generals cost more to bribe than others depending on their traits etc.

Same with cities, smaller settlements wont cost much to bribe while larger settlements will cost more.
And before you bribe or buy a settlement make sure you have troops nearby to garrison it or else it will probably revolt after 2-3 turns.

To find out how much you will need just try it once and if they firmly reject your offer than you know that you need a lot more money.

Your diplomats skill and your nations reputation help also.

[jinjo]

it depends on diplomats level and skill, also generals experience and skill

[HolyDevil]

i had a SE diplomat maxed out, with various +bribe chance traits also

i dont think i ever got a settlement...

[jinjo]

it's very hard to take settlement
generals are easier to bribe

[Bloodzen]

it's very hard to take settlement
generals are easier to bribe

Its easy once your earning 10k or so per turn. But than again I never bribe cities I only purchase them from my allies.

[Dava2710]

I couldn't bribe a Fortress (not a city, just that little castle) when I had more then 15k...
8§ diplomat just couldn't bribe this empty little castle

[Seleukos_I.]

With 15k you can't even bribe a tiny village.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Mumma Mia...., I never have the money to even try to bribe something...

[Dava2710]

With 15k you can't even bribe a tiny village.

this tiny village makes money

castle does nothing

as I said before, I don't mean a settlement, just that small castles (ramas enchor has 3 for example)

[Smaug]

I couldn't bribe a Fortress (not a city, just that little castle) when I had more then 15k...
8§ diplomat just couldn't bribe this empty little castle

I think you mean forts. And I don't think you can bribe forts. Only conquer/occupy them.

[el Cid]

As Rhun I bribed all of Mordor's settlements in Mordor, Ithilien, and even Minas Tirith. And all of Harad's provinces except for the coastal ones. It is easier if you offer a tribute of 20000 florins for about 2 turns. They will accept this faster.

[Bloodzen]

I couldn't bribe a Fortress (not a city, just that little castle) when I had more then 15k...
8§ diplomat just couldn't bribe this empty little castle

You will need a lot more than 15k to bribe a fortress, Cari Andros cost me a regular tribute of 65000 for 2 turns. At this point it was fully upgraded to produce all of the Loke troops except the cavalry.

[trueblaze]

No wonder I can't bribe. I generally never have more than 5000 gold at the start of the turn because I generally have a ton of buildings and/or units qued up to be built.

[hazdude222]

I was at 85k but couldn't bribe some villages with 3 units in - my diplomat wasn't the best so I think I'll try the "purchasing idea"

[Dava2710]

(not a city, just that little castle) = not a city/castle

[Battletoads]

I bribed gimli for 40k to bad he turned into a gondorian bodyguard.

[Santeri]

(not a city, just that little castle) = not a city/castle

= fort...

[IrishBlood]

i have NEVER been able to bribe anything tobe honest, and i really dont see the point! the prices you guys are talking about is enough to raise like 2-3 full stacks of decent units tthat could take virtually ANY settlement,

[cormagus77]

i have NEVER been able to bribe anything tobe honest, and i really dont see the point! the prices you guys are talking about is enough to raise like 2-3 full stacks of decent units tthat could take virtually ANY settlement,

Yes, but:

...at the very least not, when it would be tactically unwise to go to war with a stronger neighbour!
For example, when you need the 2-3 stacks to hang around for the future to defend the captured city against a (new) enemy.
In some cases it would therefore be better to pay a bribe once and be done with it, instead of going to war and having the pains to support your additional armies for the next 100 turns!

Or to put it in the words of a similar latin saying about the Austrian Empire:

"Bella gerant alii, tu felix imperium corrumpe.
Nam quae Mars aliis, dat tibi divus Mercur"