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    can the spartans be routed on xgm and if so how do i make it so they cant?

    it seems rather innacurate that they would run from a battle
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    Default Re: spartan units

    I think you would have to use the perfect hammer/anvil technique to make the Spartans rout which the AI is not capable of doing. If you are fighting against AI Spartans, just surround them and they will fight to the death.

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    Default Re: spartan units

    no, i want them to be incapable of routing no matter what
    im not fighting them and trying to kill them all
    i just want them to be accurate which means they would never rout

    the Spartans had a gruelling heroic code, where by no Spartan was to return home if he lost a battle. This was regarded as the highest shame, and Spartan citizenship was taken away to those who returned. This dishonour was unthinkable. To be stripped of your citizenship was like having an armed ripped off for a Spartan warrior.
    Last edited by Pinkie Pie; February 14, 2010 at 04:53 PM.
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    "She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
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    Default Re: spartan units

    Go to your xgm/data folder and open the EDU (export_descr_unit) find the SRG and put the the first number to a very high number

    stat_mental 100, disciplined, highly_trained

    And 300 isn't an accurat source of information.

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    as far as i know i didnt say anything about 300
    however meet the spartans is obviously accurate so i get info from there

    and is that it? i thought that only made it extremely difficult to route them rather than making it impossible

    another question
    how do i limit the amount of spartan units that can be trained at a time
    im making them stronger, free to train, 0 turns but to go with that i want to limit the maximum amount to only 3 units whether ai or human
    also im wondering how to make them trainable with any level barracks

    *edit*
    just realized they are trainable in any lvl barracks
    now to find out how to limit the amount of them that can be on the map
    i know there are limits on certian units in etw so it should theoretically be possible to limit the spartan royal guards
    Last edited by Pinkie Pie; February 14, 2010 at 06:08 PM.
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    "Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
    "She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
    "More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
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    sorry about the double post but most people dont check these things if it says no new posts

    can someone upload the stock export_descr_unit file from the newest xgm mod
    i changed mne too much and forgot to make a backup
    "I, Pinkie Pie, declare that these treats are fit for a king, or a queen, or a princess!"
    "Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
    "She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
    "More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
    "Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin616 View Post
    as far as i know i didnt say anything about 300
    however meet the spartans is obviously accurate so i get info from there

    and is that it? i thought that only made it extremely difficult to route them rather than making it impossible

    another question
    how do i limit the amount of spartan units that can be trained at a time
    im making them stronger, free to train, 0 turns but to go with that i want to limit the maximum amount to only 3 units whether ai or human
    also im wondering how to make them trainable with any level barracks

    *edit*
    just realized they are trainable in any lvl barracks
    now to find out how to limit the amount of them that can be on the map
    i know there are limits on certian units in etw so it should theoretically be possible to limit the spartan royal guards
    There is no way to have a recruitable unit be limited in number in RTW.

    Expand your borders, a mod based on XGM 5.

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    Default Re: spartan units

    Which exe?

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    Default Re: spartan units

    for a second i was wondering what you were on about

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    "She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
    "More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
    "Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"

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    Default Re: spartan units

    I'll have to download and Install first my copies are heavily modded.

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    Default Re: spartan units

    Here you go.


    Sorry for double post
    Last edited by Ferdiad; February 14, 2010 at 07:01 PM. Reason: Double Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    Here you go.


    Sorry for double post
    thnx

    giving them high upkeep and high training time is kind of the opposite to what i want
    i want them to be a unique unit that will always be on the map, be very rare and slaughter armies on their own
    if they cost tons and take ages to train then the ai wont train them everytime they lose them

    and its a pity its impossible
    i will continue searching though
    Last edited by Pinkie Pie; June 27, 2011 at 11:51 PM.
    "I, Pinkie Pie, declare that these treats are fit for a king, or a queen, or a princess!"
    "Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
    "She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
    "More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
    "Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"

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    Default Re: spartan units

    Very high upkeep maybe?

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    No, High recruitment cost AND lengthy recruitment time.

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    The AI will recruit them if their stats are good enough,so set the recruitment time so that there can only be 3 or 4 made in the whole time you play.

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    but i want them to ALWAYS be there
    so that would mean 0 training time
    which means they would be mass trained
    "I, Pinkie Pie, declare that these treats are fit for a king, or a queen, or a princess!"
    "Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
    "She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
    "More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
    "Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"

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    is it even possible to set training time to 0 a still be able to recruit units?i tried it once in RTW hoping to have 9 cohorts produced per turn and nothing happened. to be more precise,the que was always full and no units were ever recruited

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    yes
    go into unit desription and use the search to find the unit you want to change (ctrl+f) and where it says "stat_cost [1], 150, 100, 20, 30, 150" change the bracketed number to the desired number of turns you want them built in
    "I, Pinkie Pie, declare that these treats are fit for a king, or a queen, or a princess!"
    "Me? Ruin? I'm not the ruiner, I'm the ruinee! Or is it ruinness? Ruinette?"
    "She's ahead of the litter all right. The pick of the litter. The cat's pajamas. Oh wait. Why would Applejack take some poor kitty's pj's? That's not very sporting of her."
    "More balloons! No, that's too many balloons. More candy! No, less candy. Ooh! I know! Streamers!"
    "Oh my gosh. Hold on to your hooves – I am just about to be brilliant!"

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    Default Re: spartan units

    For a quicker way go to edit > replace and type in "stat_cost 1" in the first box and "stat_cost 0" in the bottom box and hit replace all.It's very efficient.

    Without the quotation marks obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    For a quicker way go to edit > replace and type in "stat_cost 1" in the first box and "stat_cost 0" in the bottom box and hit replace all.It's very efficient.

    Without the quotation marks obviously.
    could you please show me how?

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