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    Would you agree in unmaking Germany as a nation? Just like some people wanted to do in 1945 (there were plans of giving away northern Germany do Denmark). Let us say there is major instability and poverty in 40 years due to lack of resources (yup, today's governments in Europe were too dumb to start enviromental policies) and effects of global warming. Nationalism is on the rise everywhere, EU is broken. Germany gets some ultra nationalist leader who wants to "regain" the "lost lands"...
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    Default Re: If Germany would start another world war...

    it wouldn't happen, European Integration has at least been successful in eliminating the chance of this even happening

    after all this was the motive behind the Schuman declaration back in 1950
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    In an age of self-determination like ours now, I doubt that Germany would actually be handed over to the neighbouring countries. Once it had been defeated, its' military capabilities would have to be reduced to a minimum and the country frequently inspected à la the Treaty of Versailles.

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    Default Re: If Germany would start another world war...

    Were is the ''We will help them eradicate the Russians'' option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    Were is the ''We will help them eradicate the Russians'' option?
    Like you tried last time and lost maybe this time support Russia and who knows you can win the war lol

    OT: the chance of this happening is very small, almost zero% chance of this happening. But when it happens I think we should destroy their military and make sure that they will never have a military again. We will force them to be a pacifist nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karo View Post
    Like you tried last time and lost maybe this time support Russia and who knows you can win the war lol
    This time Germany has the entire EU behind them,so bring it on Boris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    This time Germany has the entire EU behind them,so bring it on Boris.
    Well for one the Eu will chose sides against Germany like the last time, because if Germany wins they will be the ones controlling everything and not the rest of the Eu nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    This time Germany has the entire EU behind them,so bring it on Boris.
    You put too much confidence in your little EU.

    UK, Ger, and France will do most of the fighting. and as soon as you realize you import much of your important resources, you'll feel the strain of how high the gas bill can go these days. and EU is cooperative..in ECONOMY, not military as soon as they try that it will be a tumultuous time for EU leadership, don't you hate your leader(s) already?

    Also Finland will HATE you for having this war, they will want to be against it, they've been trying to avoid unfriendliness with Russia for a while now.

    I see your illogical pride in a continent that hasn't truly been great since last century, but respect nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    This time Germany has the entire EU behind them,so bring it on Boris.
    Eh, but the European Union doesn't have a common foreign policy. And from what I've seen, only a few countries are willing to fight a war. cough* cough* Britain* cough * Poland* cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    Were is the ''We will help them eradicate the Russians'' option?
    Would like that option too
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    Why would you want to dismantle a nation that had the balls to take a third shot at world domination? If Britain had just sided with the Kaiser the first time round like he wanted the world would be a much cooler place these days...

    Anyway, on a serious note: It would never happen, and if it somehow actually did the EU would end up being the government in Germany, or atleast in control of the German government, to ensure it didn't happen a fourth time. Besides, there's still a lot of foreign soldiers in Germany to this day, the German Army would need to deal with them as well as forces moving on them from France and probably Poland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Why would you want to dismantle a nation that had the balls to take a third shot at world domination? If Britain had just sided with the Kaiser the first time round like he wanted the world would be a much cooler place these days...

    Anyway, on a serious note: It would never happen, and if it somehow actually did the EU would end up being the government in Germany, or atleast in control of the German government, to ensure it didn't happen a fourth time. Besides, there's still a lot of foreign soldiers in Germany to this day, the German Army would need to deal with them as well as forces moving on them from France and probably Poland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Why would you want to dismantle a nation that had the balls to take a third shot at world domination? If Britain had just sided with the Kaiser the first time round like he wanted the world would be a much cooler place these days...

    Anyway, on a serious note: It would never happen, and if it somehow actually did the EU would end up being the government in Germany, or atleast in control of the German government, to ensure it didn't happen a fourth time. Besides, there's still a lot of foreign soldiers in Germany to this day, the German Army would need to deal with them as well as forces moving on them from France and probably Poland.
    From what I remember old boy, Germany did not start the first World War!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔Mr.♔L.E.E.♔ View Post
    From what I remember old boy, Germany did not start the first World War!
    Well, Prussia was the first guy who declared war, that is for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔Mr.♔L.E.E.♔ View Post
    From what I remember old boy, Germany did not start the first World War!
    True, it was Austria in response to Archduke Ferdinand's assassination by Serbian Nationalists. Austria gave a 10 point ultimatum to Serbia after Austrian archduke Ferdinand was assassinated. Austria mobilized against Serbia for failing to fully abide by the ultimatum. Then the whole domino effect happened with Russia mobilizing against Austria,Germany against Russia,and France against Germany.Great Britain then declared war on Germany when it plowed through Belgium to get to France with the Schlieffen Plan.I referred back to Wikipedia for that as a source,but that confers with other books on WW1 I have read

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeRadical View Post
    True, it was Austria in response to Archduke Ferdinand's assassination by Serbian Nationalists. Austria gave a 10 point ultimatum to Serbia after Austrian archduke Ferdinand was assassinated. Austria mobilized against Serbia for failing to fully abide by the ultimatum. Then the whole domino effect happened with Russia mobilizing against Austria,Germany against Russia,and France against Germany.Great Britain then declared war on Germany when it plowed through Belgium to get to France with the Schlieffen Plan.I referred back to Wikipedia for that as a source,but that confers with other books on WW1 I have read
    Well, the main problem was that Russia tried to play "big brother" role for Serbia, which was quite understandable even for Germany. What made the whole thing strange was that Russia decided to fully mobile for fighting Austria, which was completely unnecessaried in the eyes of Germany and even Russia's ally, France. After much of warning from France and Germany, Russia, for unknown reason, decided to play dumb and stubornly mobile all its force. Obviously, it only means war for Germany, and France was dragged into an unwilling war because the dumbness of its ally, which did something France strongly against.

    I don't know, it seems the whole event was largely because Russian's extremely poor diplomate skill and silly proudness, which then it got the deserved punishment of Red Revolution.
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    Let us say there is major instability and poverty in 40 years due to lack of resources (yup, today's governments in Europe were too dumb to start enviromental policies) and effects of global warming. Nationalism is on the rise everywhere, EU is broken. Germany gets some ultra nationalist leader who wants to "regain" the "lost lands"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirov123 View Post
    Let us say there is major instability and poverty in 40 years due to lack of resources (yup, today's governments in Europe were too dumb to start enviromental policies) and effects of global warming. Nationalism is on the rise everywhere, EU is broken. Germany gets some ultra nationalist leader who wants to "regain" the "lost lands"...
    Talking about wet dreams.
    Germany will win of course.

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    I'm barely able to accept their reunification now. Oh well, let bygones be bygones I suppose.
    Who do you think you are?God?The reunification was their business.

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    Germany's recent history that still, if barely, falls within living memory is not one to be proud of and was why reunification was necessary in the first place. And, no, I don't think I'm God, so calm down.

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    Default Re: If Germany would start another world war...

    It wasn't a reunification anyway. It was more like an annexation.

    If Germany did start another World War, then I don't see a problem with dividing it up. I can't see any benefit in handing over its lands to other countries, but de-unifying it would be all right by me.

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