The U.S Presidential Election: Barack vs McCain: The Election of Racism?

[helmersen]

When we think about the election, our minds can come across all the white folk that didn't vote for Obama because of his skin color. These people are, and we like to call'em, racists. But, have we ever thought about all the black people voting for Obama because he was black? Isn't that also racism?

[Amorphos]

Yes it is Imho. In fact, to classify someone by their colour is racist, and yet it is ok for someone to classify themselves by their colour. so the blacks vote for the blackman when perhaps the ideal of a black president is against racism?


...but do whites vote for presidents bacause they are white? i would expect there is something of 'clan allegence' there at least.

[Arch-hereticK]

Obviously.

[knight of virtue and valor]

I don't care what color of the rainbow the president is. its more about which you think can better lead the nation.

[helmersen]

I don't care what color of the rainbow the president is. its more about which you think can better lead the nation.

Of course. But in this case, many of the black voted for Obama for the reason we all know. I'm not saying they voted just because of his blackness, though.

[Boer]

I do not doubt that there were race motivated voters on both sides, but they did not actually matter. Virtually anyone who would not vote for any black man based only on race would have been voting Republican or some radical rightist fringe party[such as NSM, America's National Socialist Party] anyway just as virtually anyone who would vote for any black man based only on race would have been voting Democratic or some radical leftist fringe party[such as the Black Panther Party] anyway.

Very few people actually changed there votes based on race.

[Poach]

Boer makes good points.

Further to this, I was under the impression most black people voted Democrat prior to Obama anyway, so no surprise that they voted Democrat again.

As Boer said, there may have been some racism present in the election but it's nowhere near widespread enough to class the election as a battle of races.

[Monarchist]

I believe race probably animated 5% of each side for or against, and that is it. Most of those people were just voting guiltily, after being filled with propaganda about black inequality since 1965. McCain was far too old; Reagan was too old when he was elected, but at least he was two years younger than McCain! Every factor plays into every election on Earth, so why not leave it at that? It seems like a pointless experience given the general vindictiveness and bad odour of human nature.

[empr guy]

i think some of the politicle analysis was racist, like when they said "in this city X % of the population is black so obama is expected to win", but i doubt voting due to racism effected the results in any major way.

[Gelgoog]

I voted against him because where he is from. Chicago does not exactly have a history of raising honest politicians.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

It is, and I find it idiotic that people would vote someone purely on their color, so that "they could vote in history against the white slaver oppressors!", instead of based on what they want to do for our country.

The whole thing about racism is stupid, in my opinion there is no such thing as race. Just those that have a different skin color, which is as important to me as the color of someone's eyes or hair.

Next thing you know everyone will be clamoring to vote for the "first Asian president!" or something.

[Monarchist]

Isaristh, your last line is probably the correct estimation of our situation. The West has become so obsessed with equality-of-result that we are on the course to a line of "minority presidents". Everything must be loving, inclusive, and happyful! Those silly white people have had enough time in the driver's seat; am I right?

I expect that, by 2048, they shall have had a president which was a "height-challenged" African-American Muslim female in a wheelchair. We must tolerate all levels and people in order to be equal...

[empr guy]

I expect that, by 2048, they shall have had a president which was a "height-challenged" African-American Muslim female in a wheelchair.

that was originaly an egyption nationalist involved in a war with isreal and was born male

but i agree with the racism is stupid, i heard on the news about how test results for firefighters were thrown away so african americans who had failed might be hired... (The white irish people who didnt get hired filed their own discrimination lawsute lol)

[Fiyenyaa]

This can't really be proved because a large percentage of black voters in the USA are Democrats already - so there's no way to prove causation with the correlation.
All I know is that no-one in the their right mind would ever vote for anyone who thought Sarah Palin constituted suitable vice-presidential material.

[DekuTrash]

As others have said, most AA's () already vote democrat. But the whole race thing got really annoying quickly. It would be a constant topic on every news outlet, mainly breaking down what empr guy said. I got tired of seeing "My president is Black" signs all over the place. I hated how so many African Americans acted how Obama would drop everything to cater to there wants and needs once in office.

Kinda the same thing with Sonia Sotomayor, once she was in as a supreme court justice virtually all radio stations and news outlets that target mainly the immigrant Hispanic community were acting as though she would do the same things. I got sick of hearing "Now we have a voice" crap. Hey morons, shes a supreme court justice.



Oh gosh darn it I'm a racist aren't I?

Well.....half racist seeing as Hispanic is part of my heritage.

[Elfdude]

The vote was decided by the vice presidents for me. While I hate biden's progressive fascism I hate palin's blatant fascism more.

[Monarchist]

Why is Sarah Palin a fascist?

[Poach]

Why is Sarah Palin a fascist?

Seconded, I had no idea she was intelligent enough to know what Fascism is.

[Monarchist]

Seconded, I had no idea she was intelligent enough to know what Fascism is.

Anything I say in her defense will just be used to make me look stupid, won't it? Smart game.

Book burning, abusing her political power as governer etc. etc. etc. In her mind being part of the government meant anything she did was right.

I'm sorry, but I don't pay attention to Alaskan politics that much. Can you show me the event wherein she advocated the burning of books or actively threw books on to a fire? Two words don't exactly tell me much. Just how did she abuse her political power as a governor? You're giving me your own spin on events that have no context in my world. Have you actually heard Palin talk about the government? She talks, at least, in a way that tells me she doesn't trust abstract government all that much, so I doubt she ever thought being part of the State made her right all the time. This sounds like claptrap to me, and I come from an almost totally neutral background on Palin, seeing as she is not a monarchist.

She was just a moron. Any facist tendencies were coincidental to this.
She thought that people criticising her was attacking her free speech. The idiocy of the woman was simply staggering.

She has a silly accent that makes her sound like a housewife in Wisconsin, but why is she a "staggering idiot"? That sounds like an exceptionally extreme thing to say about someone. Anyone can bandy about the word "moron"...

[Fiyenyaa]

Why is Sarah Palin a fascist?

She was just a moron. Any facist tendencies were coincidental to this.
She thought that people criticising her was attacking her free speech. The idiocy of the woman was simply staggering.