Forming of Square in Melee?

[Stoke]

In numberus games where i have charge into the enemy they have formd squares. So my question is, do u get a melee bonus for it? This is inf vs inf.


Thx

[average650]

I believe that there is no bonus for inf v inf in square, but it does slow the melee down so that other units have more time to come to assistance

[Danweck]

When i put my guys into square prior to a melee charge, it is in the hopes that nothing will get the flanking and rear morale damaging effects on the squared squad. Also, in many situations, cav will at some point join the fray, and as such, it would be in the benefit of the squared unit to get the bonus against it. Finally, When my guys are in a square, the enemy is more likely to wrap around them. When this happens, my troops firing into the melee are more likely to hit foe rather than friend as would be the case where the melee simply turned into a free for all.

[Stoke]

oky thx for the tips

[Spectre11B]

If you see someone square against a melee attack, pull back and shoot them.

[The_Valiant]

Yep. The infantry have an area to fall back to, the flag. They cannot be flanked. However, they are vulnerable to enemy fire if they stop the charge and fire a volley or two. Always have reinforcements coming up to save your squared units.

I played a 2v2 prussia+US vs Maratha + prussia. I squared my infantry when the marathas made their charge. I managed to weather the majority of the assualt.

[bushranger]

they also lose any getting flanked moral buff which is a big bonus in melee

[Keiichi]

Not exactly on topic, but apparently in Napoleon:TW you will no longer be able to form squares while engaged in melee. A nice (and accurate) change, in my opinion.

[The_Valiant]

Not exactly on topic, but apparently in Napoleon:TW you will no longer be able to form squares while engaged in melee. A nice (and accurate) change, in my opinion.

But you can form a square before melee, can you not? If you square during melee I find it not as effective. They are to busy fighting for their lives to form into a neat square. Any ways it only promotes people to bumrush the enemy so they form into squares for melee, then hit them in the face with a leaden volley of musket fire.

[Keiichi]

But you can form a square before melee, can you not? If you square during melee I find it not as effective. They are to busy fighting for their lives to form into a neat square.

Of course you can form a square before melee . And forming a square during a melee actually imparts quite an advantage in ETW. Your men immediately get the morale/defensive bonus and they will also safely run to form the square without being bayoneted by the enemy. As you can see it's rather ridiculous because in reality, if you turned your back on a man with a bayonet, you'd get stabbed in the back. Thus, it's a nice improvement in NTW.

Any ways it only promotes people to bumrush the enemy so they form into squares for melee, then hit them in the face with a leaden volley of musket fire.

Not sure if you're saying this is a good or bad thing, but it is the goal of pretty much every cavalry charge on line infantry. Force the enemy into square, then shoot him to pieces! Will be quite interesting in NTW as you'll have to really give serious though to whether or not you should form squares.

[The_Valiant]

[QUOTE=Keiichi;6778515]Your men immediately get the morale/defensive bonus and they will also safely run to form the square without being bayoneted by the enemy. As you can see it's rather ridiculous because in reality, if you turned your back on a man with a bayonet, you'd get stabbed in the back. Thus, it's a nice improvement in NTW.[QUOTE]

thats what I thought. Dont ever use logic when playing Empire!

[ccqwert7]

Bottom line, it doesn't hurt so why not.

[Soveriegn]

besides slowing down the melee of the enemy, the fact that the unit is in square makes troops stand closer together, giving them a morale bonus in my experience

I have had units in melee stand up as confident while in square, but the moment they open up they start to waver and break, even though the enemy units are about to break themselves

[Keiichi]

besides slowing down the melee of the enemy, the fact that the unit is in square makes troops stand closer together, giving them a morale bonus in my experience

I have had units in melee stand up as confident while in square, but the moment they open up they start to waver and break, even though the enemy units are about to break themselves

This is why you will often see the AI form squares when it is getting shot to pieces; instant morale boost!

[Soveriegn]

This is why you will often see the AI form squares when it is getting shot to pieces; instant morale boost!

never put 2 and 2 together-nice one!