Tone's thread on unit fixes

[tone]

Just to help me organise remaining unit fix work:

Syracusan horse archers
Eastern general
Officers (secondary weapons)
??Dacian falxman - change from one of Thracian falx units
Spartan officers

I'm sure there'll be more

[swhunter]

Spartans body guard second weapon.

[Philip_II]

Bruttian Spearmen have a peasant unit card

[torzsoktamas]

For reskining:
numidian cavalry
balearic slinger

[torzsoktamas]

Tone,..you want to change a dacian units weapons,or make a total reskin?
And another thing that I remembered is to switch the iberian scutaris weapon to sword from spear.

[tone]

Yeah, about the Dacians, I'm getting a load of PMs from Visarion so will rejig the Dacian spear units slightly.

[torzsoktamas]

Yeah, about the Dacians, I'm getting a load of PMs from Visarion so will rejig the Dacian spear units slightly.

Should I(or others) post here pictures of the units you want to reskin?Like a dacian one?

[tone]

No it's alright. I know what's needed thanks.

Basically the Dacian spear units will become like this.....
1) Dacia Medium infantry (instead of Comati hoplite) - Underhand spear and sica
2) Dacian Heavy/Elite infantry - Javelin and longer Sica

In addition, probably get rid of either the Thraikan falxmen or Thraikan elite falxmen unit (they're basically the same) and replace with an unarmoured Dacian falxmen unit which will share the model with the Bastarnae.

[torzsoktamas]

No it's alright. I know what's needed thanks.

Basically the Dacian spear units will become like this.....
1) Dacia Medium infantry (instead of Comati hoplite) - Underhand spear and sica
2) Dacian Heavy/Elite infantry - Javelin and longer Sica

In addition, probably get rid of either the Thraikan falxmen or Thraikan elite falxmen unit (they're basically the same) and replace with an unarmoured Dacian falxmen unit which will share the model with the Bastarnae.

And if it is possible give the dacian falxman cloth and something on his head: helmet or just simlpe leather cap.But it is up to you.

And getting rid of the thracian falxman or thracian elite falxman is very logic as they are the same unit but with different stats.

[torzsoktamas]

I was searching for carthagian soldiers,...and found that many afrikans had used stollen chainmail.I just taught,weather it would be more historical to have another carthagian unit with chainmail(as only the lat lybian spearman has it)?I think if you do agree to give another carthagian unit chainmail,than the marines would be the best choice.

Here is a picture I found:

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I think in both ways (presently with linothorax and bronze scales/with chainmail) the marines would look good,..so in my opinion the historical accuracy should decide it.So if you think it would be more historical than if you want it,give it chainmail,...but if it would be unhistorical than leave it with the present linothorax.

You decide.

[tone]

It's also a factor of how much work I really want to do on this. I really don't have the energy left to go on endlessly doing and redoing stuff.

[torzsoktamas]

It's also a factor of how much work I really want to do on this. I really don't have the energy left to go on endlessly doing and redoing stuff.

I understand you complitely.I just asked it.

[torzsoktamas]

Tone,I don't know if you remember or not,...I once asked if you could give the armenian hoplite a more distinctive eastern(or persian)look.

Like these guys:

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What is your opinion?Is it possible?Or will you have time for it?
If you disagree,..than no problem,...I just asked it,..as I find the greek looking skin for armenian hoplite a bit wierd.But if you say that it is realistic/historical,..or if you can't make it,..than again--no problem.

[tone]

Armenia certainly had a period of significant hellenistic influence. We probably ought to have given them a more eastern looking hoplite-like unit like above as well, but I think we'll just have to go with what we've got

[torzsoktamas]

Armenia certainly had a period of significant hellenistic influence. We probably ought to have given them a more eastern looking hoplite-like unit like above as well, but I think we'll just have to go with what we've got

So is it a no?Well as you wish,...I would have liked them more eastern looking,..but they are good presently too,so no problem.

[Leonidas The Lion]

I'd also check the animations for the greek slingers, the one where they get ready to fire.

[torzsoktamas]

My last suggestion:

The scythian version of the slavic spearman looks a bit ugly,..while the free greek version of the slavic spearman looks very good.Maybe give the free greek version ot the scythians too.

[welwelwel]

Numedian cav thinks that they are holding swords as secondary weapon, whilst they are fighting with javelins