Family Members in console

**MrVoila** · February 10, 2010, 03:53 AM

Hey everyone. I recently got Stainless Steel 6.1 and am psyched to play it. However, being very very obsessive about certain elements of gameplay, I need to edit some of my starting characters. My problem arises when I look up their names in the descr_strat of Stainless Steel and put those names in the console only to get character not found, or the console 'adding' the trait, but it not showing up on said character. So basically it either doesn't recognize the char. name or just doesn't give the trait even after I enter it correctly. I tested this over multiple factions, but the best ex. is HRE. There are 2 Heinrichs... one is Heinrich von ....., but there is no way to edit the prince Heinrich... Can anyone help me out here? Thanks.

**Navocado** · February 10, 2010, 04:21 AM

For the Princes and Kings you have to figure out their surnames by hovering over their children's pictures. For example, 'Prince Heinrich' won't be recognised by the console but 'Heinrich von_Smith' (eg) will be. Also note the underscore between the final two names. If it's a problem with the descr_strat files, I'm afraid you'll have to ask someone more technically minded than myself! Hope that's some help anyway

**Caesar Clivus** · February 10, 2010, 05:02 AM

In the console you may have to replace the surname of the character in question with that of their father.

**JorisofHolland** · February 10, 2010, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by MrVoila

Hey everyone. I recently got Stainless Steel 6.1 and am psyched to play it. However, being very very obsessive about certain elements of gameplay, I need to edit some of my starting characters. My problem arises when I look up their names in the descr_strat of Stainless Steel and put those names in the console only to get character not found, or the console 'adding' the trait, but it not showing up on said character. So basically it either doesn't recognize the char. name or just doesn't give the trait even after I enter it correctly. I tested this over multiple factions, but the best ex. is HRE. There are 2 Heinrichs... one is Heinrich von ....., but there is no way to edit the prince Heinrich... Can anyone help me out here? Thanks.

You must add a number after the trait, i.e. give_trait "Heinrich von_Hohenstaufen" "GoodCommander" 1

The number reflects the level, use 0 to remove traits (or remove_trait command)

**Halbard** · February 10, 2010, 04:33 PM

OR, maybe, just try typing "give_trait this <insert trait>" while selecting the General.

**MrVoila** · February 10, 2010, 07:10 PM

I know how to enter the names in the console. For some reason, these names do NOT require underscores like other consoles in Rome and Medieval 2. For example, Heinrich von Somethingsomething is actually entered into the console as "Heinrich von Somethingsomething". As for the number, I know all about entering traits, and the numbers are not the problem here. The problem is that there are 2 Heinrichs. The son of the emperor would most likely have the same surname as his father, this is the problem. Heinrich the elder works as "Heinrich von Somethingsomething", but I cannot figure out the name for the younger. Also, the problem I mentioned with the correct name being entered is a problem too. I'll enter the name correctly (as I know it is correct because it doesn't say character name not found) but the trait will not update on the actual character.

The problem here is that Heinrich the younger is listed in the descr_strat as Heinrich. JUST HEINRICH. But when I enter give_trait "Heinrich" GoodTaxman (or whatever trait), it doesn't update.

**Caesar Clivus** · February 10, 2010, 07:53 PM

As I said earlier, give him his father's surname when you use the console.

**MrVoila** · February 10, 2010, 08:12 PM

I get the surname. What I'm saying is if I use the father's surname, that gives the trait to the father. I can't type Heinrich von_Somethingsomething to give a trait to Heinrich the younger, cause it will just give the trait to the father. So how do I give the trait to the son? I tried what is written in the descr_strat document to no avail.

**PerXX** · February 11, 2010, 06:27 AM

As Halbard wrote, move Heinrich the younger somewhere outside of a city, have hom selected when you open the console, and type this instead of his name.
As in give_trait this alcoholic 3