Requiting Unites

**aceking90** · February 07, 2010, 03:48 PM

When requiting unites, is it better for a faction to have good early unites like the Desert Infantry which can be created quickly and cheaply while having few elite unites that arn't really that speacle. Or is it better for them to have bad early unites like the Iberian Infantry in exchange for having better elites like the Sacred Band even if they take a few turns to make?
Me I perfer to have acces to decent solders quikly because the elite unites like armored elephants or Spartans can only be requited in a few settlemeants so unless the fighting is near by creating them isn't worth it.

**Genius of the Restoration** · February 07, 2010, 04:21 PM

I prefer strong early units as this is when I do most of my fighting. I haven't played with the units you can get at 24,000 pop. for some time now. Strong early units make it easier to go on the offensive which has a snowball effect for later. The earlier you capture one settlement the more troops that settlement can build for you had you captured it later which will help capture another settlement earlier and so on. Strong early-mid game units make it much easier to establish a dominant position before the other factions expand too much.

**Ciisar** · February 08, 2010, 05:40 AM

Reqruit these units what you can afford. You can defeat them with all if you know how to defeat your enemy.

**aceking90** · February 10, 2010, 08:17 PM

True, but you still need solders who can fight. You still need the right weapons to fight them with. It's not like you can just heave group of peasents hiding in a forrest and expect that that you can deafeat a legion simply because you catch them by supprise.

**Genius of the Restoration** · February 10, 2010, 08:31 PM

No that's not possible

**aceking90** · February 11, 2010, 02:14 PM

Whats not possible?

**Genius of the Restoration** · February 11, 2010, 03:17 PM

Destroying Roman legions with peasants.

In all honesty, I think tactics are much more important than unit type. I have full faith that Iberian Infantry and 3 units of Roundshield Cav could destroy a stack of Roman infantry on a nice map with some handy terrain.

**Rilsaur** · February 11, 2010, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Genius of the Restoration

Destroying Roman legions with peasants.

In all honesty, I think tactics are much more important than unit type. I have full faith that Iberian Infantry and 3 units of Roundshield Cav could destroy a stack of Roman infantry on a nice map with some handy terrain.

Depends on what kind of infantry, & upgrades.
Hastati/Principe mix, p'raps so.
Urbans & other Post-Marian units other than Early cohorts, not so much.

**Genius of the Restoration** · February 12, 2010, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Rilsaur

Depends on what kind of infantry, & upgrades.
Hastati/Principe mix, p'raps so.
Urbans & other Post-Marian units other than Early cohorts, not so much.

Oh definitely. Urbans mess everyone up. An early cohort is possible. Principes would be straightforward enough. Waste their pila, run them ragged, isolate them, get the fear in them from cav on the flanks, units appearing and numbers and presto, it's all over.

Originally Posted by aceking90

Common on, Iberian Infantry is the weakes infantry in the game next to peasents and town watch. Their is no way they could win.

Weak units can win battles too! Especially if they've got some cav on their side and the opponent doesn't have any.

**aceking90** · February 11, 2010, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Genius of the Restoration

Destroying Roman legions with peasants.

In all honesty, I think tactics are much more important than unit type. I have full faith that Iberian Infantry and 3 units of Roundshield Cav could destroy a stack of Roman infantry on a nice map with some handy terrain.

Common on, Iberian Infantry is the weakes infantry in the game next to peasents and town watch. Their is no way they could win.

**A Demented Goldfish** · February 12, 2010, 05:35 PM

1 simple reciepe to defeting a legion, charge every unit wiv heavy infanty go round the flanks wiv cav and ur done, repeat until genicide is achvied

**Drakedeath** · February 13, 2010, 02:06 AM

You cannot requite unites. You can only recruit units. The Spelling Sorcerer and Grammar God frown upon thee.

And honestly, it's best for a faction to have a sturdy early lineup with a sturdier later lineup, like the Romans (Hastati early on, Princepes and then Cohorts later). Some factions (namely Greece) have a good early lineup and a good later lineup, being able to recruit Armored Hoplites the 4th turn, as long as City Barracks in Sparta are your first construction.

**aceking90** · February 16, 2010, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Drakedeath

You cannot requite unites. You can only recruit units. The Spelling Sorcerer and Grammar God frown upon thee.

NOOOOO!!!! Please oh mighty gods of Grammar and Spelling, spare this poor lad. I have always have trouble with speeling. ARRRGGG!!!!! XXX Tell my wife I loved her, but I loved my dog more. PS Those pants did make her look fat.

**aceking90** · February 16, 2010, 01:47 PM

Ok I am back from the dead. Yes I am a zombie, no I don't want to eat you brain. To many calories, and I'm on a diet.

Now I shall be slightly more serriuse. DAMIT. I hate spelling.
I still hate how it takes more than 1 turn just to requite a unit like Numbnian legionares. They ownly have a 7 attack, and 16 deffrence, desert infantry has the same attack, a 14 deffence, and a bounse against horses.