1980s: A Superb Era of Music

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    SoggyFrog's Guide to the Alternative 80s

    When people look back on 80s culture, it's often with a distanced fascination or outright contempt. The popularity of mullets, gaudy fashion, and synthesized music are just a few cringe-inducing characteristics of the decade. As far as music goes, most characterize the 80s as a period of new wave, hard rock, and the rise of the MTV era. That's not all bad, but as I'll try to illustrate here, it's unfortunate because the 80s also saw some extraordinary contributions to alternative rock that still define music today. And this music wasn't only innovative, it was good, really good, and sounds astonishingly fresh even over 20 years later.

    There's a lot of iconic and accomplished musicians whose activities during the decade people like to discuss: Michael Jackson, Madonna, David Bowie, AC/DC, Queen, Talking Heads, U2, Guns N' Roses, Duran Duran, Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, R.E.M., etc.

    What all these artists have in common, aside from their contributions to the decade, is that I am not going to be talking about them. Who will I be talking about then? Read on!


    Part One (Part Two) (Part Three)
    Starting with 1985, if no one minds my skipping the first half of the decade.



    Two Scottish brothers form a band, The Jesus and Mary Chain, with the vague dream of becoming stadium rock stars. They take on a drummer and a bassist, and with their first album Psychocandy end up starting a novel movement in rock music that would continue well into the 90s. JAMC showed that the idea of rock n' roll was as alive as ever, and they seized an ethic that was worth hating and loving.

    "We always were lazy and we always will be", Jim Reid later told an interviewer, and they didn't mind alienating others, infamous for beginning their career with 10 minute shows. They drank too much and embraced drugs, of course, but in part of their story was also the realization of hopelessly childlike fantasy.

    I'm explaining this because the music of Psychocandy embodies that spirit. At the heart, they're simple feelgood pop songs (the innocent aspect), but they're drenched in layers of distortion and feedback (the in your face rebellious aspect). The first single off Psychocandy, "Never Understand" (yeah, that's a YOUTUBE link for your benefit), and probably better known, if you've seen Lost in Translation, the lead track "Just Like Honey". For s&giggles, a live (not concert) version of "In a Hole" with JAMC looking as lazy as ever. If you find that video somewhat appalling, good on ya.

    It's far from being a full realization of what can be accomplished when guitar effects are abused, but the innocence of JAMC's music is something that can't be reproduced. That contrast that makes this music so unique, and was quite essential to the modern regeneration of rock music.

    1986



    Talk Talk was a new wave/synthpop act pretty typical of the era, similar to Duran Duran. Their music was quite a strong representative of the genre, but the genre hasn't aged well, and they'd be just another forgettable 80s band had they not afterwards radically departed from the style that characterized their first two albums, The Party's Over and It's My Life. 1986's The Colour of Spring was the first step, but it was also their most successful album, producing the hit "Life's What You Make It" (don't actually click this link unless you like the genre). What's so intriguing about TCOS is that it also included sparser, progressive compositions that predicted their new direction, including "Chameleon Day", "I Don't Believe In You" (from Live at Montreux 1986) and "April 5th".

    Their label, EMI, was so pleased with the success of TCOS that they gave Talk Talk free rein to create their next album, which would be completed 2 years later...

    One more note for the year: My Bloody Valentine, a heretofore inconsequential band whose brand of psychadelic flavoured post-punk wasn't particularly notable, releases their third EP, The New Record by My Bloody Valentine. They're now mimicking JAMC's use of guitars, and while they're not the only one following the Scottish brothers, we will be tracking their progress because they go a long way from their sound on songs like "Another Rainy Saturday".

    Here concludes Part One, I'm saving the best for last of course.
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    Michael Jackson - ok, I'll give you that one
    Madonna -
    David Bowie - not a fan of glam
    AC/DC - always sucked. Decade doesn't matter
    Queen - LOVE Queen, but their heyday was in the 70s
    Talking Heads - don't know em
    U2 - I can't help but feel like/feel like I'm listening to a douchebag whilst listening to U2. Probably because I am
    Guns N' Roses - sucks
    Duran Duran -
    Tom Waits - ok, got me there
    Leonard Cohen - love, heydey in the 60s and 70s
    R.E.M. - don't listen to them.



    Oh, i'm going to love this thread. Thanks for this SoggyFrog

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    Psychocandy and the first cd of the "The power of negative thinking" box are their best work

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    David Bowie - not a fan of glam
    He wasn’t glam any longer in the 80s now was he. But he wasn’t great during the 80s. In fact, he wasn’t glam by the end of the 70’s neither but I prefer his work during his “Berlin period” (Low, Heroes) than his earlier albums.


    Anyway, here are more artists and albums from the 80’s that I think deserves a mention too:
    Bauhaus – In the Flat Field
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    The Stone Roses – The Stone Roses
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    Einstürzende Neubauten – Halber Mensch
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    The Jam - Sound Affects
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    The Birthday Party – Prayers on Fire
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    Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds – From Her To Eternity
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    The Gun Club – Fire of Love
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    Black Flag – Damaged
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    Tom Waits – Rain Dogs
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    Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime
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    Meat Puppets – Meat Puppets II
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    Butthole Surfers – Locust Abortion Technician
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    Hüsker Dü – Zen Arcade
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    Big Black – Atomizer
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    Flipper – Album Generic Flipper
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    Bad Brains – Bad Brains
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    Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
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    Scratch Acid – The Greatest Gift (It was released in 1991 but it’s a compilation album with material that was released during 1982-1986.)
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    Cabaret Voltaire – Red Mecca
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    Throbbing Gristle - Throbbing Gristle's Greatest Hits
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    The Cramps – Songs the Lord Taught Us
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    This thread isn't about any of those musicians, I'm trying to shake that notion of the 80s and replace it with, well, you'll see
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    Heinz Guderian said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoggyFrog View Post
    1986



    Talk Talk was a new wave/synthpop act pretty typical of the era, similar to Duran Duran. Their music was quite a strong representative of the genre, but the genre hasn't aged well, and they'd be just another forgettable 80s band had they not afterwards radically departed from the style that characterized their first two albums, The Party's Over and It's My Life. 1986's The Colour of Spring was the first step, but it was also their most successful album, producing the hit "Life's What You Make It" (don't actually click this link unless you like the genre). What's so intriguing about TCOS is that it also included sparser, progressive compositions that predicted their new direction, including "Chameleon Day", "I Don't Believe In You" (from Live at Montreux 1986) and "April 5th".

    Their label, EMI, was so pleased with the success of TCOS that they gave Talk Talk free rein to create their next album, which would be completed 2 years later...

    One more note for the year: My Bloody Valentine, a heretofore inconsequential band whose brand of psychadelic flavoured post-punk wasn't particularly notable, releases their third EP, The New Record by My Bloody Valentine. They're now mimicking JAMC's use of guitars, and while they're not the only one following the Scottish brothers, we will be tracking their progress because they go a long way from their sound on songs like "Another Rainy Saturday".

    Here concludes Part One, I'm saving the best for last of course.
    Awesome rep+. I love Talk Talk. I remember hearing "life's what you make it" for the first time a few years back at a house party in my first year at uni. I spent like an hour trying to find out who sang it, going up to hot girls and saying "hi, sorry to bother you, but i was wondering..if you know the band that performed that song that was on a little while ago..."

    EDIT: DOOD, YOU FORGOT ITS MY LIFE
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    I agree with therussian on Leonard Cohen, his earlier stuff is much better. Tom Waits is always awesome. Jesus & Mary Chain are awesome.

    Spacemen 3 definitely deserve a mention, I prefer them to J&MC myself. Skipping the first half of the decade means skipping The Chameleons - Script of the Bridge though
     
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    re Heinz
    It's very encouraging to find someone who knows this music, that's definitely a big reason for my assembling all of this. But I did not forget that track! My hope is that, like you, the inquisitive listener finding that they like Talk Talk will seek out more of their tracks and, to their delight, "discover" the excellence of It's My Life. Also, I'm trying to keep my retrospect tightly focused.

    re God
    I know I'm probably ruffling a few feathers by restricting my discussion to a few artists. I've still a lot to learn about music from this time, I've listened to some of The Chameleons and I think someone has mentioned Spacemen 3 to me before, but this thread should prove to be a learning experience for me as well!
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    Joy Division / New Order - Closer, Movement, Power, Corruption & Lies, Technique
    The Smiths - Strangeways Here We Come, The Smiths
    Japan - Tin Drum, Gentlemen Take Polaroids
    The Chameleons - Script Of The Bridge
    A Certain Ratio - The Graveyard & The Ballroom, Sextet, To each...
    Section 25 - From the Hip, Love & Hate
    Siouxie and the Banshee's - Kaleidoscope, Juju
    Metallica (who cares early stuff kicks arse) - Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightening, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All
    Happy Mondays - Bummed (best album came out in the early nineties though)
    John Foxx - Metamatic, The Garden, The Golden Section
    John Cooper Clarke - Snap Cracke & Bop, Zip Style Method
    Magazine - The Correct Use Of Soap
    Kraftwerk - Computer World
    Public Image Limited - Flowers of Romance, (and if you like) Album
    Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel 3 (Melt), Peter Gabriel 4 (Secruity), So
    Kate Bush - Hounds of Love, Never For Ever, The Dreaming
    Spacemen 3 - Sound of Confusion, Playing With Fire,
    The Fall - The Wonderful, And Frightening World of The Fall, Frenz Experiment, I am Kurious Oranj, Grotesque After the Gramme, Hex Education Hour, Perverted By Language, This Nations Saving Grace
    Durutti Coloumn, The Return of the Durutti Column, LC

    In no order
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    Def Leppard
    Dokken
    Queen
    Scorpions
    Reo Speedwagon(although more 70s)
    Foreigner
    Styx(more 70s as well)
    Quiet Riot
    Ratt
    Skid Row
    Journey(more 70s)
    Motley Crue
    and more....

    Only the best decade in music ever.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONOPUST View Post
    Only the best decade in music ever.
    All decades are the best and the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomberboy View Post
    All decades are the best and the worst.
    For me, the 80s are the best.

    (and yes I get what you are saying)
     
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    Good
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    Though formed in 1975, Iron Maiden saw their rise to fame amongst the 80s explosion of rock and metal. I do love a bit of the Maiden.
     
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    The 80's also saw the birth of Thrash and Death metal.

    Anyway, the 80's was a hard time for many, and with hard times comes great music.
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    80's was awesome

    talk talk is awesome
     
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    It was THE era of metal.
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    I don't give a if it was the era of metal. My target audience is not metal enthusiasts, and the purpose of this thread is not to reinforce traditional interpretations of the 80s, it's to introduce an alternative perspective, which should be abundantly clear if you read the lead post instead of just the title.

    I don't mind if you intelligently want to relate other genres to the discussion but comments like yours are a total non sequitur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoggyFrog View Post
    I don't give a if it was the era of metal. My target audience is not metal enthusiasts, and the purpose of this thread is not to reinforce traditional interpretations of the 80s, it's to introduce an alternative perspective, which should be abundantly clear if you read the lead post instead of just the title.

    I don't mind if you intelligently want to relate other genres to the discussion but comments like yours are a total non sequitur.
    You're right, I don't have problems with any other genre from the 80's and I'm open to other genres.

    BTW, are you going to review The Stone Roses or else I'm going to leave?
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    80s music? GAAAAH!!!! KILL IT!!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!

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    60's, 70's or last century for me.
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