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    Default question: What's the different between Hoplites and Phalanx

    I try to translate it into Chinese, but find in any dictionary they are all named as spearman.

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    Default Re: question: What's the different between Hoplites and Phalanx

    A 'Hoplite' is a kind of Greek soldier, usually referring to the troops that carry the large round Aspis shield. A 'Phalanx' is a formation of spearmen. The phalanx usually refers to either the formation of locked shields and shorter spears used by the Hoplites or the 'Macedonian' phalanx used by Alexander the Great and the Successors, which uses much longer spears and spaces the men further apart. In RTW, all references to the "phalanx" are talking about the Macedonian phalanx using the longer spears.

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    Icon3 Re: question: What's the different between Hoplites and Phalanx

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus View Post
    In RTW, all references to the "phalanx" are talking about the Macedonian phalanx using the longer spears.
    In R:TW hoplites also had the "phalanx formation" ability. The EB team felt this was unrealistic, as hoplites could and did charge, so their formation must have been somewhat looser than displayed in R:TW. Hence hoplites do not have the phalanx ability in EB.

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    Default Re: question: What's the different between Hoplites and Phalanx

    Maybe you meants hoplites and phalangites?
    The hoplite is a heavy spearman with a large shield and a spear(called dory) 2.4-2.7 m in length. They fought in a hoplite phalanx, with the first 3 ranks able to attack the enemy.
    The phalangite is essentially a pikeman. They had a small, up to 0.6m shield strapped to the left forearm and used a 5-6m pike that required both hands to operate. Phalangites formed the macedonian/hellenistic/phalangite phalanx, in which the first 5 ranks could present their pikes(calles sarissa) to the enemy; That phalanx was used for the first time by Philip II(the father of Alexander the Great).
    Essentially, the hoplite phalanx is like the "shieldwall", whereas the hellenistic phalanx is more like the "hedgehog" formation or like the "pike square" of the Renaissance.
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