War of 1812, US vs Britain an NTW add on ?

I don't know whether anyones already raised the question of extensions to the
Napoleon: Total War game.
But considering the number of North American campaign extensions to Empire: Total War.
I wonder whether Sega and Creative Assembly might envisage a War of 1812 ( which
actually lasted a couple of years ) add on for NTW.
As well as the obvious greater appeal this would have on the North American gaming
audience. The US Navy would also give the Royal Navy a bit of decent opposition on the
high seas during the Napoleonic Wars ( particularly in view of the the ribald remarks on
the French Naval victory 1810, thread )
Of course with the Total War series being flexible enough for nations to choose their own
combination of alliances during the Napoleonic Wars. The US forming an alliance with
Napoleon and intervening in the European campaigns, is an interesting gambit.

i would rather(or maybe in the same dlc) have the finnish war of 1808-1809. Even if we lost finland we kicked the russians ass in the end and drove them out of sweden

Ive Got an Idea, 'Every single war in the early 19th century Total war!'

I say two expansions. One yhe War of 1812, the other,, the Anglo-Maratha Wars in India 1797-1803.

But still How come People Are Looking FOrward to a games Expansion, Wich Probably Wont Come out?

Originally Posted by Petrov

But still How come People Are Looking FOrward to a games Expansion, Wich Probably Wont Come out?

cause some of us might not give a flying fadoodle about Nappy and fighting solely in europe with egypt thrown in.

i would like to see a peninsular DLC...that way they could add spain and portugal as playables as well as giving CA a popularity boost due to the popularity of the sharpe novels which are set in the peninsular...

Which Peninsula? Iberian? Italian? I think they Should've added an Italian wars DLC for ETW, They wont need too in napoleon, well Coz of the Italian Campaign

Originally Posted by Petrov

Which Peninsula? Iberian? Italian? I think they Should've added an Italian wars DLC for ETW, They wont need too in napoleon, well Coz of the Italian Campaign

Peninsular War was when the French invaded Spain and Portugal. So your answer is Iberian. Man, all you needed to do was type into google, "Peninsular War".

I would like to see a Vietnam War (the USA's one (and won. lol)) version of NTW. That would be awesome. A Gulf War version too come to think of it, AND I'd like CA to go back and revise all of the old TWs so as to insert an American map into them ... into the middle of them or over the top ... whichever makes the map of the USA bigger. Only when I have my feudal knights munching on Big Macs as they ride into battle will I be happy.

Originally Posted by Neddy

I would like to see a Vietnam War (the USA's one (and won. lol)) version of NTW. That would be awesome. A Gulf War version too come to think of it, AND I'd like CA to go back and revise all of the old TWs so as to insert an American map into them ... into the middle of them or over the top ... whichever makes the map of the USA bigger. Only when I have my feudal knights munching on Big Macs as they ride into battle will I be happy.

Quit being ridiculous. The War of 1812 was very much involved in the Napoleonic Wars (notice how that is not a specific war). The US has been in all of ONE TW game, quit pretending like Americans are asking for something crazy. I see no reason why it should not be included as an extra side campaign to shake up the Euro map. It could also add to multiplayer.

Originally Posted by DeusVult!

Quit being ridiculous. The War of 1812 was very much involved in the Napoleonic Wars (notice how that is not a specific war). The US has been in all of ONE TW game, quit pretending like Americans are asking for something crazy. I see no reason why it should not be included as an extra side campaign to shake up the Euro map. It could also add to multiplayer.

no it wasnt,it was a side show.

Originally Posted by Neddy

I would like to see a Vietnam War (the USA's one (and won. lol)) version of NTW. That would be awesome. A Gulf War version too come to think of it, AND I'd like CA to go back and revise all of the old TWs so as to insert an American map into them ... into the middle of them or over the top ... whichever makes the map of the USA bigger. Only when I have my feudal knights munching on Big Macs as they ride into battle will I be happy.

haha i know what you mean...

but its not entirely a stupid idea, maybe not those wars but the mayans existed as far as the 10th century BC (i think so)
would it not be fun to land a roman legion on the shores of South America and discover these vast cities and then ally with these ancient mayans who in turn for their riches you gift them a region from gaul

obviously this isnt the same as people from the US but id enjoy it haha.

so it wont be the same campaign map as empire? what about the grand campaing they where walking about..

I am not sure it fits the format very well. If England is not tied up in war with France then it is a route of the Americans. Besides you have only two major factions and a few tribes allied with both sides. It does not lend its self to the scope of TW. The same can be said of India. It would have been better to include both in NTW than make them into questionable add-ons.

There is already such a topic, use the search function please.

I want the expansion to cover Karl Johan Bernadotte's campaigns in Jylland and the conquest of Norway

Originally Posted by Red Hue

I am not sure it fits the format very well. If England is not tied up in war with France then it is a route of the Americans. Besides you have only two major factions and a few tribes allied with both sides. It does not lend its self to the scope of TW. The same can be said of India. It would have been better to include both in NTW than make them into questionable add-ons.

After 1814 Britain partially demobilized, then sent the major portion of its remaining army to the Americas. Exactly because they weren't tied up with Napoleon anymore. I don't understand why everyone says, "The British in America were scrubs" when talking about the War of 1812, then "All the veterans were in America" when talking about Waterloo.

They could have sent another 10K or so, but only by stripping the home islands. To no purpose. A larger army just suffers more attrition losses. The main British offensive in 1814 was out of Canada into northern New York, and it consisted of some 15k veterans. Somewhere around half of them were lost, most due to harsh conditions. If you send more troops, you'll lose more men. ("The Final Invasion: Plattsburg", Fitz-Enz.)

They had the same problem with naval wastage. The bases at Kingston and Nova Scotia couldn't keep up with storm damage, and the round trip distance to get on station for blockade duty was prohibitive. Adding more ships wouldn't have accomplished much. ("Splintering the Wooden Wall: The British Blockade of the United States", Morris.)

Napoleon's invasion of Russia can't be properly modeled without logistics and attrition. That's even more true for the War of 1812.

It is not that I would mind playing such a game or scenario as the War of 1812.

The major point is that there are only two major factions involved. That does not fit in with Total War, which is always about multiple factions.

It would be good for multiplayer but for single player it might not be as cool.

Right. Fitting the format is a different issue than force balance. With regard to only two factions in India and America, I mostly agree, not sure. NTW is sorta-two sided (France/Coalition), let's see how that works out.