My computer crashed! Can anyone please upload there H/VH SPQR saves?

[Bellus88]

I recently downloaded a killer file, which was supposed to be for a game. I scanned it with my older virus scanner because it's faster and my entire computer crashed, blue screen the moment you open it. Anyway I lost my SPQR save files which where on H battle / VH campaign difficulty. I hate starting all over, does anyone have some saves with at least all of Italy conquered along with 2 Towns/Cities in Gaul conquered? Concerning cities, most of the ones in Italy, already having a Governors Palace with 2 or 3 having a Pro-Consuls Palace. There has to be someone out there with these saves! If not, can someone who wants to start a new campaign please start one with these settings? If you do please tell me when you have gotten to what I listed above, I would really like the save files.

[lt1956]

Best way is to take this drive and connect it to another PC, they copy the data you need from it. The data is still there its just not a boot drive anymore. I doubt many people play on the setting you mentioned.

If you have a friend who is into PCs or a PC repair place take it to them I am sure you can get your data back.

[Bellus88]

Damn, I should have done that, I already whiped it out. Anyway can someone please start a campaign and get to this point? Can you LT? People should really play on these settings for a hard challenge.

[czePowerslave]

Damn, I should have done that, I already whiped it out. Anyway can someone please start a campaign and get to this point? Can you LT? People should really play on these settings for a hard challenge.

Challenge is the same.
Really, LT can you elaborate on the main differences between M H VH?

[Bellus88]

Oh comon, is it really? There has to be a difference! If there wasn't it wouldn't be there. On the battlefield you would loose more battles because the AI is smarter, on the strategic map they would move in a smarter way. I remember seeing a guys saved game on M/M he wont like 70 battles and only lost 10 or 11 maybe even less then 10. When I played my campaign my totals, not including rebel auto vict and naval conflicts where 71 wins and 26 lost. This was on V/VH, this is why I want to play a game on V/VH, can someone please start a new one and play it until you got Italy conquered and 2 Gaul towns along with upgraded cities with gov palace ? I would really appreciate it, so if anyone wants to start a new campaign on a new difficulty or just to help me out then please do.

[Ejergard]

When it comes to actual battles, the difficulty does matter. I don't remember the exact difference, and I can't find it in here again, but it goes something like this:
At medium difficulty, neither side gets an advantage.
At hard difficulty, AI gets a +3 attackbonus to all troops.
At VH difficulty, AI gets a +7 attackbonus to all troops.
So, if you play on anything else than M, AI is getting an unnatural bonus, and I suppose this is really a matter of taste which you prefer to play with. This can be easily tested in a custom battle aswell, battles really are harder/easier depending on the level you choose to play with.

However, I also recall that in SPQR, all factions have been tweaked for best difficulty at medium in campaign difficulty, and might be broken at any other difficulty.
Now, this is all stuff I've picked up over the years in here, as I said, I couldn't find the thread again, and I'm not 100% sure about the exact numbers, and the actual effect of the campaign difficulty.
Would be great if LT could clarify this, maybe make an addition in the official FAQ/readme?

[Bellus88]

Is LT even active on these forums anymore? As you mentioned the AI gets additional attack bonuses, thought I was told by powerslave that VH difficulty for battle is broken.

And how would the difficulty be broken on any other for SPQR? How would you notice it? I never did when I was playing it before.

[czePowerslave]

Ugh, I think I read someplace that the difficulty is a matter of morale, not better stats

[Ejergard]

Hehe, he just posted here in your thread

[Bellus88]

Oh ya, I just noticed. Anyway I would really like some clarification on this subject, looks like Powerslave was wrong, difficulty is about stats now so shouldn't VH/VH provide the most challenge in SPQR?

[lt1956]

No because what happens is when the AI gets these bonuses it thinks it can do things it cant with certain units. Also tehre is the Missle Bug in 1.5 vanilla patch. What happens is with the bonuses it will make the stats too high and the archers will not fire on HEAVY units. This can still happen in SPQR on medium settings with the heaviest rain plus heaviest armored unit.

The +3 and +7 are correct, But this isnt a matter of challenge, what it does is unbalances the Game. If you play by making all 1st cohorts then yes you can play at this level, but if you play even CLOSE to normal house rules and I mean the basic, VH is unplayable because you will drain your Cities etc. in the long term. The AI produces some tough units already. If you want a challenge without using Difficulty settings I suggest NOT KILLING the general, you will see the armies do not ROUT and you lose ALOT more men. Personally I cannot see how anyone can play Hard and especially VH in battles. This would cause too many loses and you couldnt replace them, Also in campaign all the Hard and VH do is give More money to the AI which makes them build more armies which is a never ending battles, which IMO SPQR has enough of already.

Bellus88 I suggest playing by house rules, and with the garrison script, that is a challenge, playing your way is impossible to play by house rules and the garrison script, so you must be just spamming the best units, Try our way and see how hard it is.

[Bellus88]

No because what happens is when the AI gets these bonuses it thinks it can do things it cant with certain units. Also tehre is the Missle Bug in 1.5 vanilla patch. What happens is with the bonuses it will make the stats too high and the archers will not fire on HEAVY units. This can still happen in SPQR on medium settings with the heaviest rain plus heaviest armored unit.

The +3 and +7 are correct, But this isnt a matter of challenge, what it does is unbalances the Game. If you play by making all 1st cohorts then yes you can play at this level, but if you play even CLOSE to normal house rules and I mean the basic, VH is unplayable because you will drain your Cities etc. in the long term. The AI produces some tough units already. If you want a challenge without using Difficulty settings I suggest NOT KILLING the general, you will see the armies do not ROUT and you lose ALOT more men. Personally I cannot see how anyone can play Hard and especially VH in battles. This would cause too many loses and you couldnt replace them, Also in campaign all the Hard and VH do is give More money to the AI which makes them build more armies which is a never ending battles, which IMO SPQR has enough of already.

Bellus88 I suggest playing by house rules, and with the garrison script, that is a challenge, playing your way is impossible to play by house rules and the garrison script, so you must be just spamming the best units, Try our way and see how hard it is.

When I played hard battles, I found I needed 2-4 merc units just to win. What about Merc units and house rules? I don't remember seeing anything mentioning them in the type of Legions you need. Can't you incorporate 2 or 3 merc units replacing the Principes with some of your armies? More money to the AI making more armies makes it more fun, I remember Dacia and Macedon had large stacks of armies probably 20+ full stacks. Dacia had like 8 stacks guarding the boarder between me and them, I didn't even play with garrison script I don't remember pressing turn help off. Still even with house rules H/VH, I don't know about battle difficulty but as you said they build more armies, but then again the large battles would slow down your computer, espcially one like mine on a old P4 3.2GHZ 2GB Ram but the 9800GT DDR3 helps make up for that, but its not enough on massive battles (7500+ units). Still, I never fought an enemy nation like Dacia who has more then 8 full stacks very close together, I think it would be possible to fight 1 or 2 of them at a time so it won't be to laggy.

About not killing the General, thats hard sometimes, I hate these limitations house rules. Sometimes the General comes very close to attacking your units first, also I remember killing the General on H in many battles and the enemy did not route quickly, they only did if you kill the general close to them.

[czePowerslave]

LT, i thought that eco bonuses of Ai, which are already uber, can lead to rebellions and such. Is that true or is AI tweaked in a way to prevent?

[Iberian22]

I am sure that the most ofthe people wich play on very hard battle hasnt taken the Roman empire until siria or britania, they only fight i nitaly and win the gauls and say, it seems easy, I need more difficult.

So take half of the world known and fight in Siria having 2 legions, wait 6 armenian stacks, althought you win them you will have lost a minium 2000 men and replace them, yes, replace them, you cant you must go to Italy for it. So that adds hard to the campaign.

This is mod is made for long in terms and time. Its very easy fight in Italy and replace the troops in 1 turn.

[czePowerslave]

I am sure that the most ofthe people wich play on very hard battle hasnt taken the Roman empire until siria or britania, they only fight i nitaly and win the gauls and say, it seems easy, I need more difficult.

So take half of the world known and fight in Siria having 2 legions, wait 6 armenian stacks, althought you win them you will have lost a minium 2000 men and replace them, yes, replace them, you cant you must go to Italy for it. So that adds hard to the campaign.

This is mod is made for long in terms and time. Its very easy fight in Italy and replace the troops in 1 turn.

The map holds a special surprise. Scythians.
In my 6.4 campaign, where I own well over half the map and where are only 4 factions remaining on the map except for Romans, they have about 120+ stacks of units. Now I feel strong, but that?!

[Iberian22]

Great take it as a challenge, the Huns, and all the goths, vandals and the rest of asiatic, german tribes, in the late roman empire.

[czePowerslave]

Germans are easy with Imperial legions. But try taking on full stack of horse archers.

[Vespasian92]

how true, how true. Horse archers will murder legions. Take Carrhae for example

[Iberian22]

Czhe whats the version you are playing??

I dont know if the version is important but I am in 190bc SPQR 7.0 and scytians, dacians and germans havent changed his starting positions.

[Ejergard]

They are meant to not change their positions Iberian. They are defensive, but they have ALOT of armies for defense
Germania is one of the aggressive factions though, so they will attack you.