Recruting own troops in conquered lands

[DerekBaker]

As the Romans I could recruit Roman infantry in areas outside of those I start with.

As the Carthaginians I can not recruit Carthaginian infantry outside the starting areas.

How come? And is this the same for all non-Roman factions?

[Freshmaker]

I have yet to play as Carthage, so forgive me if this is wrong (somebody will be quick to correct me). I believe it has something to do with the type of Government buildings you have. I know this is true for Gaul.

You have a choice between moving your culture in, or merely making them a "territory" for lack of a better term. It is only through moving your culture in that you can recruit your own units. The further you are form your homeland the more "Government upgrades" it takes to get the stronger units.

Each faction has different "government trees". I would recommend playing a little bit more and checking things out.

[Maurits]

You're right, Freshmaker! In FOE, there are indeed some options to choose when you conquer a settlement. This will allow you to recruite your own troops, or region specific units in a conquered main region. There are other bonusses given by the different buildings, but you should find those in the in-game descriptions.

As Carthage, to stimulate the fact that it relied heavily upon mercenaries, I believe that your own units like Sacred band infantry + cavalry can only be recruited in Carthage itself. Therefore, your armies will be composed of Liby-Phoenicians and other allied troops.

Have fun in playing the game!

[DerekBaker]

As Carthage, to stimulate the fact that it relied heavily upon mercenaries, I believe that your own units like Sacred band infantry + cavalry can only be recruited in Carthage itself. Therefore, your armies will be composed of Liby-Phoenicians and other allied troops.

I can only recruit Liby-Phoenicians in a subset of my starting cities.

As an example: in my first game Bononia could, with suitable development, recruit all three types of pre-Marian Roman infantry. Whereas in this game the infantry options are limited to Gallic Warband and Swordsmen, nothing Carthaginian specific.

[Maurits]

That's because Bononia is Gallish. Therefore you'll find Gallic units there. The Liby-phoenicians were just an example, in Greece you'd find polis-hoplitai. The point is, that conquered peoples will fight in the way they're used to for a long time, unless you take the rioting risk by making different government tree buildings. (and even then I can't guarantee that you'll be able to train Gallic Liby Phoenicians )

[Clearchus of Sparta]

Bononia was incorporated into the roman republic during the games timeframe, so rome should be able to recruit roman units witht he correct govt buildings.

Carthage traditionally relied on mercenaries or AOR units, so their system means you will more than likely have to rely on AOR's more than faction units.

[Arkaeyn]

It's also very important to pay attention to which government branch you're building. The first step when you conquer a territory is an Occupation, which is fast and doesn't do much except to help pacify the region. The second level is the most important. For most regions, there will be two options, which can basically be categorized as Fast AOR (Area of Recruitment) or Longer Integration. The building times vary on these, but generally the faster option is 2/3s of the time of the longer option.

For example, with the Gauls, the Fast AOR option is the Devotio. This is a dead end in terms of government, but it will get you local troop recruiting in a hurry. The longer option is (I think) the Tribal Council. There aren't as many troop options for this for a while, but eventually, it leads to a full recruitment of Gallic troops (without AOR options.)

Larger capital regions skip the AOR option and have slightly different options, but generally still lead to same place.

Your missile troops and skirmishers are generally going to be AOR troops, while your line infantry and heavy cavalry are your faction troops. So a decent mixture of both is usually necessary.

[DerekBaker]

It's also very important to pay attention to which government branch you're building. The first step when you conquer a territory is an Occupation, which is fast and doesn't do much except to help pacify the region. The second level is the most important. For most regions, there will be two options, which can basically be categorized as Fast AOR (Area of Recruitment) or Longer Integration. The building times vary on these, but generally the faster option is 2/3s of the time of the longer option.

For example, with the Gauls, the Fast AOR option is the Devotio. This is a dead end in terms of government, but it will get you local troop recruiting in a hurry. The longer option is (I think) the Tribal Council. There aren't as many troop options for this for a while, but eventually, it leads to a full recruitment of Gallic troops (without AOR options.)

Larger capital regions skip the AOR option and have slightly different options, but generally still lead to same place.

Your missile troops and skirmishers are generally going to be AOR troops, while your line infantry and heavy cavalry are your faction troops. So a decent mixture of both is usually necessary.

We are talking here about vanilla-RTRPE?

[Arkaeyn]

RTR VII Fate of Empires, which is the most recent RTR release and the most common one discussed in these forums. What mod are you talking about?

[Pat89]

lol - next time please mention what mod you use when asking a question and post in the right place.

Moved to the RTRPE forum

[DerekBaker]

lol - next time please mention what mod you use when asking a question and post in the right place.

Moved to the RTRPE forum

Sorry, could have sworn I was in the right place.

[Caleb ConDoin]

Ya i don't know why carthage can't recuit troops, like I have a royal barracks in iberia but I can only recuit punic skirmishers in iberia with a lot of AOR troops.

[Caesar Augustus]

I'm guessing this is because Carthage can only recruit faction troops in Carthage.

Historically, Carthage recruited mainly mercenaries and local troops. For instance Hannibal Barca used a mix of Gallic, Liby-Pheonician, Numidian and Iberian troops.