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Diplomatic Relations
I'm playing as Reikland and I have several diplomats around the empire. But the thing is that unless I'm allied to a faction, I cannot enter diplomatic relations. When I select my diplomat and put my mouse on a neutral (Sylvannia because they became a protectorate of Averland) and enemy factions, I get a red x. How can I enter diplomatic relations with enemy or neutral countries?
Decanus
Re: Diplomatic Relations
I'm having the same problem with the orcs, I would really apreciate it if someone could tell me the reason for this (how to fix it would be nice too, in that case rep would be handed out whenever the opportunity arises ad infinitum).
"The only question that remained was whether the founders knew the final result of their creation, or if they themselves where the victims of a misunderstanding.
In the latter case it was the duty of any thinking human, to press himself into the front of this depraved movement, to perhaps still prevent the extreme, in the former case the founders of this peoples disease must have been true devils; for only in the brain of a monster - not of a human - could the plan for an organisation take meaningfull form, whose purpose must lead toward the end result of a collapse of human culture and thus to the desolation of the world.
In this case only battle remained as a means of final delivery, battle with any weapons that the human mind, intellect and will are able to comprehend, regardless, of whom fate would gift with it's blessing."
Biarchus
Re: Diplomatic Relations
I think it is simply to follow warhammer lore...I dont think that the Orcs dont want allies (non greenskins) they just want to conquer...Sylvannia I think follows the same approach ...the only good non vampire is a dead(drained of bloodfirst)one.
Decanus
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Sure, if I where to play a regular Orc campaign I would have no need for diplomats, but in this case I'm playing an Orc campaign that is specifically designed to result in an engaging AAR, I need them diplomats to realise the storyline I have written.
I would greatly apreciate it if someone could tell me how to make my Orc diplomats be able to engage in diplomatic negotiations, as I said rep will ge given ad infinitum.
Telling me how it would work for any other nation is enough (like for instance the opening post relating to Reikland), I will be able to figure it out, I did for adding diplomats to Orcs so I see no reason why it would not work in this instance.
"The only question that remained was whether the founders knew the final result of their creation, or if they themselves where the victims of a misunderstanding.
In the latter case it was the duty of any thinking human, to press himself into the front of this depraved movement, to perhaps still prevent the extreme, in the former case the founders of this peoples disease must have been true devils; for only in the brain of a monster - not of a human - could the plan for an organisation take meaningfull form, whose purpose must lead toward the end result of a collapse of human culture and thus to the desolation of the world.
In this case only battle remained as a means of final delivery, battle with any weapons that the human mind, intellect and will are able to comprehend, regardless, of whom fate would gift with it's blessing."
Biarchus
Re: Diplomatic Relations
I don't believe Orcs ever had "diplomats", or Chaos. It seems a good choice to me...Originally Posted by Scipio praeditus
You can fake diplomatic relations in your AAR (or just mod the mod as suggested).
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Re: Diplomatic Relations
Did you miss this Grumby beans advice for you in other thread, or didn't it work?Ok this is easyJust go here: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\teutonic\data and find a file called "descr_cursor_actions". Open it with notepad and you should see alot of stuff, dont worry it's not complicated at all
. scroll down a bit until you see this in the code tags:
All you do is change a few things here and there (its really easy like i said
This is VERY monotonous so just bear with it. Just in-case you're wondering why i didn't attach my file with all the changes in place i have two reasons: 1: Ooops and 2: it doesnt hurt to learn a bit of modding a file (even though it's not that exciting)Code:selected diplomat {when you select your diplomat and move your cursor over an object, these are what actions you are allowed to carry out} { over own {Just ignore this whole section, if you mess with this your game might get screwy, but its easy to change if you feel like you need to} { initial_never_seen Mov Mov land Mov Mov sea Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea army Mer* (S) Mer (S) admiral Em* (S) Em (S) tooltip embark_character diplomat S (S) S (S) princess S (S) S (S) merchant S (S) S (S) priest S (S) S (S) heretic S (S) S (S) witch S (S) S (S) inquisitor S (S) S (S) spy S (S) S (S) assassin S (S) S (S) family S (S) S (S) settlement G* (S) G (S) tooltip enter_settlement fort G* (S) G (S) tooltip enter_fort rally_point Mov naval_rally_point Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea garrisoned_settlement G* (S) G (S) tooltip enter_settlement garrisoned_fort G* (S) G (S) tooltip enter_fort garrisoned_ship Em* (S) Em (S) tooltip embark_character sieged_settlement S tooltip cannot_enter_sieged_settlement sieged_fort S tooltip cannot_enter_sieged_fort garrisoned_dock Mer* (S) Mer (S) port Mov dock Na } over enemy { default Na tooltip cannot_perform_mission default Na land Mov Mov sea Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea army Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission { Na = this means not available; cant carry out this specific action } army TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission { TB = this means that you can talk/bribe armies; basically initiate the normal diplomacy menu with bribe enabled} diplomat Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission diplomat T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission { T = this means you can just talk to characters/armies/settlements; initiating the diplomacy window without bribery } princess Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission princess T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission family Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission family T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission settlement Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission settlement T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission fort. Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission fort T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission rally_point Mov naval_rally_point Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea garrisoned_settlement Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission garrisoned_settlement TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission garrisoned_fort Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission garrisoned_fort TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission port Mov } over allied { default Na { Just do the same thing here as you did above. Just replace the FIRST "Na"'s with "T" or "TB" (look above for reference). } land Mov Mov sea Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea army Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission diplomat Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission princess Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission family Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission settlement Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission fort Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission rally_point Mov naval_rally_point Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea garrisoned_settlement Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission garrisoned_fort Na Na tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission port Mov } }
Hope this Helps!!!
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...64#post6667164
I believe the reason for dumping down diplomats in campaign, is to prevent weird alliances etc.. If I remember right, Isilendil told that AI did this in beta-stage
Decanus
Re: Diplomatic Relations
No it worked, I posted in this thread before GrumpyBean answered my question in that thread.Did you miss this Grumby beans advice for you in other thread, or didn't it work?
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...64#post6667164
I believe the reason for dumping down diplomats in campaign, is to prevent weird alliances etc.. If I remember right, Isilendil told that AI did this in beta-stage
I was just spreading my bets, and hoped that posting the same question as mrhamster in his OP would increase the chances of someone bothering to answer.
Well, as long as I don't add diplomats to other factions there shouldn't be any such alliances taking place.
@mrhamster
Your answer is in the link above, just change the part concerning enemies and you'll be able to enter diplomatic relations with neutrals.
"The only question that remained was whether the founders knew the final result of their creation, or if they themselves where the victims of a misunderstanding.
In the latter case it was the duty of any thinking human, to press himself into the front of this depraved movement, to perhaps still prevent the extreme, in the former case the founders of this peoples disease must have been true devils; for only in the brain of a monster - not of a human - could the plan for an organisation take meaningfull form, whose purpose must lead toward the end result of a collapse of human culture and thus to the desolation of the world.
In this case only battle remained as a means of final delivery, battle with any weapons that the human mind, intellect and will are able to comprehend, regardless, of whom fate would gift with it's blessing."
Bring me Solo & wookie
Re: Diplomatic Relations
That clears things up.
Well, I'll have to check that AAR when it's published
Re: Diplomatic Relations
Hi guys... if you can't have a diplomat, how do you attack an allie? It says I need to send a diplomat to tell them my intentions before I can attack.
Sorry, i'm not a computer genius or anything, just trying to play the game. Thanks
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yeah, actually I wondered as well as Kislev doesn't get no diplomats aside from the one at the start
Re: Diplomatic Relations
Go into the EDB and find city hall or something that your faction can build. then make sure it looks something like this:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
the lines you want are:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Should now be able to make a diplomat if you have that building. It can be any building so if you are not a 'European' faction say for instance dark elves, do this for a different building.
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