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    Interesting poll:

    Millennials" (those 18-29) consider abortion to be "morally wrong" even more (58%) than Baby Boomers (those 45-64) (51%). Generation X (those 30-44) are similar to Millennials (60% see abortion as "morally wrong"). More than 6 in 10 of the Greatest Generation (those 65+) feel the same.
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-82304862.html

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    Wow, children without experience of a certain trauma are incredibly naive about it. I'm shocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-hereticK View Post
    Wow, children without experience of a certain trauma are incredibly naive about it. I'm shocked.
    Then why do the Greatest Generation and Generation X feel the same way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-hereticK View Post
    Wow, children without experience of a certain trauma are incredibly naive about it. I'm shocked.
    Ummm if you look at the numbers you are completely all wharbell on this one.

    I'm gen X we as a group think abortion is morally wrong, and guess what my friend we have all that experience.

    Added ALL of the groups think that its morally wrong as a majority opinion, only the baby boomers's are the 'smallest' majority.

    Really what was your point again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-hereticK View Post
    Wow, children without experience of a certain trauma are incredibly naive about it. I'm shocked.
    What trauma are you talking about?

    I believe the Baby Boomers are simply deficient in morals. They just happened to be maturing in the late 1960's, when their youth leaders became the most savage, barbaric, immoral, unethical band of creatures to call themselves "human". Baby-boomers, it must be recalled, grew up entirely on the spoils of the Second World War. The Greatest Generation made all the real sacrifices for their children, who grew up in the post-war atmosphere of the 1950's and early 1960's. These impudent children must have felt isolated and less safe than any generation before, for they grew up in the shadow of nuclear bombs. This naturally has a cooling effect on any optimism, but I believe the killing blow was their pacifism. It was partly caused by fear of nuclear bombs from their childhood, but also because there were no life-threatening enemies to really fight. The U.S.S.R. didn't seem to be doing much, and so these baby-boomers simply developed into wimps and wusses. They had no great evil to believe in the destruction of!
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    They don't count of course. They are more likely to have an informed opinion that disagrees with his beliefs and are deemed irrelevant.

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    Most of the USA's 90million+ population growth since 1970 has been due to immigration and the higher breeding rate of immigrants. Which is to say, the later generations have far higher numbers of children whose parents were not Baby Boom yuppies but were instead Mexican plebs with strong Catholic beliefs. These statistics definitely do not prove what they claim to prove, more data would be needed if we didn't already know the reality (why are those native birthrates lower to begin with? Americans don't have sex anymore?).

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    Lol @ america. It is funny how they act like barbarians and then think the muslim world is bad...
    You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habelo View Post
    Lol @ america. It is funny how they act like barbarians and then think the muslim world is bad...
    lol wut?
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    Just a few things I've noticed from statistics on abortion:

    22 percent of all pregnancies in America end in abortion. The US has one of the highest abortion rates in the First World.
    http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/poli...wrjp333pd.html

    In an AGI study asking women the reason behind getting an abortion, less than 10 percent answered that their lives were in danger or that they were victims of incest and rape. The vast majority either didn't want a baby or felt they couldn't afford it. But here's the real kicker - almost 50 percent of women in the study reported not using any birth control before deciding to abort an unwanted pregnancy.
    http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/poli...abreasons.html

    Countries with comprehensive sexual education programs and easy access to contraception (e.g, the Netherlands and Norway) tend to have much lower abortion rates than the US.


    So, to recap, America's high abortion rate seems to be a very avoidable problem with the right amount of sex education and easier access to contraception. No wonder the majority of Americans - myself included - see the current rate of abortion as unacceptable.

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    I believe the Baby Boomers are simply deficient in morals. They just happened to be maturing in the late 1960's, when their youth leaders became the most savage, barbaric, immoral, unethical band of creatures to call themselves "human". Baby-boomers, it must be recalled, grew up entirely on the spoils of the Second World War. The Greatest Generation made all the real sacrifices for their children, who grew up in the post-war atmosphere of the 1950's and early 1960's. These impudent children must have felt isolated and less safe than any generation before, for they grew up in the shadow of nuclear bombs. This naturally has a cooling effect on any optimism, but I believe the killing blow was their pacifism. It was partly caused by fear of nuclear bombs from their childhood, but also because there were no life-threatening enemies to really fight. The U.S.S.R. didn't seem to be doing much, and so these baby-boomers simply developed into wimps and wusses. They had no great evil to believe in the destruction of!

    Most important of all, however, is the fact that the baby-boomers were the first generation to see wide-spread college and university attendance. Before the Second War, such attendance was not very high, but it suddenly became a moral "right" to go to university in the affluence of the 1950's! Now, as any person with a cursory experience of life can tell you, the university/college is the nesting ground of the Communist "intellectual". We see this in Marx's pamphlets and The Manifesto, which all drove themselves into the young men and women of 1848 who were off to school. It is always the pernicious professors who drill these ideas into youth, who are susceptible to such amoral nonsense as the Communist idea. I believe that the 1950's Baby-Boomers were even more susceptible to the relativistic Communism of lecture halls than their parents had been, because their parents grew up knowing that Nazism and Fascism were evils to be destroyed. They had their ideas of good and bad, but after WWII it seems that most of the West gave up on moral absolutism because of the devastation caused by that very same necessary fight. With the passing away of a society's absolute will to fight evil, what could follow but moral relativism in that society's children? It is a logical progression from toughness to softness, and from moral strength to pacifism.

    You may ask what on Earth that has to do with abortion. Looking into the immorality of Communism and lecture halls will give you your answer. Of course, if your parents were baby boomers and happened to be part of the upsurge in University attendance, you may well believe that morality is just claptrap.
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    one third of americans also beleive the bible is true word for word go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizav85 View Post
    one third of americans also beleive the bible is true word for word go figure
    Yes, it's a bloody scandal that so many evil people exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Yes, it's a bloody scandal that so many evil people exist.
    It's truly horrifying how many people need to believe in absurdities to feel good.

    If you can make them believe absurdities, you can make them commit atrocities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Yes, it's a bloody scandal that so many evil people exist.
    no such thing as "evil"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizav85 View Post
    one third of americans also beleive the bible is true word for word go figure
    something that has gotten really bad recently yes? I mean 50 years ago they wasnt that... speccial.. right?
    You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist
    I believe that the 1950's Baby-Boomers were even more susceptible to the relativistic Communism of lecture halls than their parents had been, because their parents grew up knowing that Nazism and Fascism were evils to be destroyed. They had their ideas of good and bad, but after WWII it seems that most of the West gave up on moral absolutism because of the devastation caused by that very same necessary fight. With the passing away of a society's absolute will to fight evil, what could follow but moral relativism in that society's children? It is a logical progression from toughness to softness, and from moral strength to pacifism.
    It's pretty amusing to see people romanticise the pre-Baby-Boomer generation as some kind of brave moral crusaders with an 'absolute will to fight evil', a band of brothers with 'moral strength' and 'toughness'.

    This is so ahistorical it's almost comical. You cannot seriously have studied Western views on Nazism, Communism or fascism in this light.
    Did you forget the Appeasement politics that Chamberlain and the rest of the Western leaders exercised for more than a decade and only stopped when it became absolutely ridiculous to still ignore Hitler's desire for an empire?
    Did you forget that every Western country was caught by the German Blitzkrieg with their pants down and with a population barely willing to fight?
    Did you forget that the UK and France only declared war on Germany two full days after the invasion of Poland, grudgingly keeping their promise to Poland?
    Did you forget that the US only fought Japanese imperialism and German nazism because war was declared on them first?
    Did you forget that Fascist and Communist expansion happened virtually unopposed (except by mere rhetoric and words) until the moment when the expansion became impossible to still ignore?

    Why do you choose to forget all these things and paint our ancestors as brave moral crusaders? Don't be fooled: the Western world fought WWII because they had no choice, not by their own free will.

    (Also lol at the statement that the USSR didn't 'seem to do much' in the Baby-boomer generation!)

    The pro-choice movement and our general society, which has a more open (I'd say more healthy) attitude towards sex and the like, has nothing to do with moral degradation. If anything it's our society becoming more mature and leaving our fantasies of simplistic moral absolutism and repressive behaviour behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post
    Is it? Americans are known to have a disfunctional attitude to abortion.

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    Well said Tankbuster.

    Also: The study is at fault here. The "moral absolutism" of it.

    Is abortion morally wrong? Maybe, nobody likes abortion. Is it sometimes necessary? Yeah.



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    I like abortion. Just think of the evils a child can be spared from unprepared teenage parents.
    You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?

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