Massalian and Syrakousian Hoplites

**Knonfoda** · January 22, 2010, 05:37 AM

Hey,

I have been using the unit list on the EB website and also the recruitment viewer, but I am a bit confused and don't really know how to use it.

Anyway, the questions is, is there any way to recruit both these units without having to resort to mercenaries? Can any faction actually train them? What about the Romani (the faction I am playing with now?) Type 4 Government (Allied) and maximum MIC do not seem to work.

Thanks.

**Anubis88** · January 22, 2010, 05:59 AM

The Romani IIRC can't train them. At least i'm sure about the Massalians, but accoring to the Units Documentation, they can train the Syracusan ones.
Still, under RV it says that the Romans can't train either of them. I'm confused now as well.

The UD says that the Massalians can be trained by : KH, Aedui, Arverni,
while the Syracusan can be trained by : Epeiros, KH, Makedonia and SPQR.

So i dunno really

**Knonfoda** · January 22, 2010, 06:19 AM

OK, thx Anubis.

**zero911** · January 25, 2010, 02:25 AM

On EB 1.2 for romans it is impossible to train Massalian or Syracusian hoplites even with maximum level native barracks built in allied IV type settlements. Tested it

I would say that recruitment viewer is a little bit obsolete in some cases.

**Anubis88** · January 25, 2010, 02:24 PM

Actually the RV is correct on this case. The unit documentation is wrong

**Knonfoda** · February 01, 2010, 09:00 PM

Wait, what?

I tested it myself too (with Romani and maximum MIC and Allied Type 4 Settlement) and got nothing. Is the ingame documentation wrong, the RV or is it actually possible?

Confused....

**bobbin** · February 02, 2010, 10:46 AM

A quick search through the EDB reveals that the Massalians can only be recruited by the Aedui, Averni, KH and Epieros while the Syrakuosai Hoplitai can only be recruited by the KH.

**Xerrop** · February 02, 2010, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by zero911

I would say that recruitment viewer is a little bit obsolete in some cases.

You are right. I have downloaded EB 1.1 and updated to 1.2 later.
But the Recruitment Viewer is for the version 0.8 - means outdated. I can remember reading a message (either on the EB homepage or maybe the RV told it in an menu), that the RV wasn´t updated for the newer versions.

**Anubis88** · February 02, 2010, 01:29 PM

The RV was updated for EB 1.1, it's not at 0.8, c'monn

You know the amount of changes between the 2 builds? check your RV, you will see many new units in it, which weren't present in EB prior to 1,0 or 1,1

**Knonfoda** · February 03, 2010, 07:55 PM

On that note, what about Tarantine cavalry? I'm guessing its also only a KH/Epeiros recruitable unit.

Oh, and is there any way for the Romani (or any other faction for that matter) to recruit the 'Lucanian light infantry'? I only see them as mercenaries.

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · February 05, 2010, 12:47 PM

I know Carthage can recruit Lucanians and likely Epeiros as well.

**Marcus Publius Faber** · February 07, 2010, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Knonfoda

On that note, what about Tarantine cavalry? I'm guessing its also only a KH/Epeiros recruitable unit.

Oh, and is there any way for the Romani (or any other faction for that matter) to recruit the 'Lucanian light infantry'? I only see them as mercenaries.

To train Lucanian infantry (Pezoi brettioi) go for Messana, MIC level 3 IIRC.

**bobbin** · February 07, 2010, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Marcus Publius Faber

To train Lucanian infantry (Pezoi brettioi) go for Messana, MIC level 3 IIRC.

Lucanian infantry and the pezoi brettioi aren't the same unit.

**Knonfoda** · February 07, 2010, 09:53 AM

Tried and tested:

Lucanian Infantry, and Tarentine Cavalry are recruitable by Epeiros in Taras. (But not Romani)

Pezhoi Brutii are recruitable by Romani and Epeiros.