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    Default Afghanistan is a mess and it is time for secession!

    Afghanistan has been at war with itself for over 30 years! It is a country that is incompatible because it has too many different ethnic groups. The Pashtuns are the only real Afghans and they conquered most of the country from the Iranians and Bukharais in a peroid of 150 years.

    Over 50% of the country speaks Persian of which 35% are ethnic Persians (Tajiks).
    I have seen fellow Tajiks who say that it is insulting that we must call ourself Afgan and most of the Taliban are Pashtun and that is were most of the fighting is in Pashtun areas.

    So 'We the People' call for the Confederacy of Independant States of Aryana.
    Persian will be the offical and only language and each state will have its own prime minister who represents and serves his ethinic group. The Tajiks will hold the office of President and Defence Minister.
    While other positions are divided among the smaller minorities such as the Hazara and Uzbeks.

    This will be the flag:



    or this

    And this will be the size of the nation.

    Brown will be what is left of Afghanistan and the captial will be Kandahar because Kabul if now the captial of the C.I.S.A.

    So will free to ask me any questions and what do u think of my declaration?


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    I think the swastika flag is a GREAT idea.
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    The swastika represents good luck and is a testament to our Aryan lineage. In the west it might mean Nazism and the Holocaust but this is not so in the east.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 6644kp View Post
    The swastika represents good luck and is a testament to our Aryan lineage. In the west it might mean Nazism and the Holocaust but this is not so in the east.
    Well, don't plan on having any diplomatic relations with the entire west then. Black swastika on white circle... red became green... Whoever designed that flag really didn't put much thought into it, did they?

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    my country the USA has more ethnic groups then Afghanistan and we are not a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    my country the USA has more ethnic groups then Afghanistan and we are not a
    all melted into one anyways. Different situation. If afganistan is full of people whose only difference is their great-grand parents' birth place, they wouldn't have so much problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    my country the USA has more ethnic groups then Afghanistan and we are not a
    Recession,Inexperience leader,Two Front War,Unemployment,Political Conformism.
    I would say you are realy .

    Well there's the swastika symbol of good luck used by many different people and religions and there is the corrupted version used by the Nazis to champion their hate politics and twisted values -- as such I feel perfectly justified in calling a Nazi swastika not a real swastika just as much as a white supremacist cross is not a real cross. It is antithetical to the actual symbol's meaning.
    I didnt know we could "corrupt" symbols haha.

    I would think that poster was looking for a political discussion about his "option" for Afghanistan and not a discussion about symbol but yeah do enjoy the discussion if swastika is or isnt a hate symbol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6644kp View Post
    The swastika represents good luck and is a testament to our Aryan lineage. In the west it might mean Nazism and the Holocaust but this is not so in the east.
    LOL you don't even know do you. The nazi swastika, which is in that flag, is tilted and rotating the opposite direction from the traditional swastika. It is the only variation of the swastika that looks this way. Whats on that flag IS a nazi symbol and not a Persian/Aryan symbol at all.

    *sigh*

    Nationalistic crap again for the rest of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6644kp View Post
    The swastika represents good luck and is a testament to our Aryan lineage. In the west it might mean Nazism and the Holocaust but this is not so in the east.
    But I was under the impression that if the swastika (originally a peace symbol) is tilted 45°, then it becomes a Nazi swastika. That's what I was taught anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodguy1066 View Post
    But I was under the impression that if the swastika (originally a peace symbol) is tilted 45°, then it becomes a Nazi swastika. That's what I was taught anyway.
    It was tilted in various positions way way before Hitler was even born but it was a symbol most of the world had pretty much forgotten and outside of Nazism most people wont know what it stands for.

    Mostly I would say it is the insignia of a common ancestor both the East and the West has. Europe and Asia, it should have been used as a unifing force for two worlds that were once one but through thousands of years have become completly different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    I think the swastika flag is a GREAT idea.




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    Honestly, if "Balkanization" in the Muslim world's "hotspots" leads to peace, I see no reason not to try it. Iraq seems to have started working out its problems, but as long as you divided the oil evenly, I don't see why they can't break up into Shia, Sunni and Kurdish countries. If Afghanistan would be better off, it should go for it as well.

    I don't think America, Karzai, the Taliban or the Warlords want that to happen, though. Probably Iran would be happy to have a "Persian" Iraq. Pakistan would probably be less happy with their half.




    "That war is a terrible thing I agree, but it is not so terrible that we should submit to anything in order to avoid it. For why do we all vaunt our civic equality and liberty of speech and all that we mean by the word freedom, if nothing is more advantageous than peace?" — Polybios, Historiai, IV.31

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    Yeah only who was it that funded the Taliban? Pakistan.

    And to say beheadings don't happen in Pakistan is a lie because clearly they did happen.

    Also I would like you to prove most Taliban are Afghan.


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    what about the Uzbeks and Hazaras though?
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    Wow. And you afghans seriously wonder why your country is in such a ing , look at yourselves! you guys can't even live with each other under the same flag!

    Lol, this reminds me of the time when some afghan told me that he loved afghanistan because of all the ethnicities that united under the Afghan flag. What a ing joke.

    Oh, and by the way OP, i really don't care if you create this little country, just maker sure you guys stay on your side of the border, and make sure to remember that Pakistani pashtuns are Pakistani first and Pashtun second.

    what about the Uzbeks and Hazaras though?
    They'll probably just come over to Pakistan, like they always do. In fact, the only hazara university in the entire world is located in Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pspguy123 View Post
    Wow. And you afghans seriously wonder why your country is in such a ing , look at yourselves! you guys can't even live with each other under the same flag!

    Lol, this reminds me of the time when some afghan told me that he loved afghanistan because of all the ethnicities that united under the Afghan flag. What a ing joke.

    Oh, and by the way OP, i really don't care if you create this little country, just maker sure you guys stay on your side of the border, and make sure to remember that Pakistani pashtuns are Pakistani first and Pashtun second.

    They'll probably just come over to Pakistan, like they always do. In fact, the only hazara university in the entire world is located in Pakistan.
    lol why are you telling me that? tell that to your Pashtuns that they are Pakistani first I dont care if they cant speak Persian they might as well be from China.

    Oh and dont worry we will stay on our side of the border that is until we get really powerfull and decide to recreate the Persian Empires of old. im jk


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    People in Afghanistan are too bored - that is the only answer I can give you.

    Boredness is the top reason why men start fighting eachothers, and why women are less aggressive than men, generally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    People in Afghanistan are too bored - that is the only answer I can give you.

    Boredness is the top reason why men start fighting eachothers, and why women are less aggressive than men, generally.
    Kaiser Wilhelm to George V: I'm bored, old chap, what say we have a jolly old war?
    George V: Splendid idea good sir! Go see if the Austrians and Italians are interested, I'll speak to the French and Russians!

    But we all know the bloody sneaky Italians switched sides...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Kaiser Wilhelm to George V: I'm bored, old chap, what say we have a jolly old war?
    George V: Splendid idea good sir! Go see if the Austrians and Italians are interested, I'll speak to the French and Russians!

    But we all know the bloody sneaky Italians switched sides...
    Completely wrong since it was the problem of Germany and Russia, although WWI is truly caused by boredness, no kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pspguy123 View Post
    Lol, this reminds me of the time when some afghan told me that he loved afghanistan because of all the ethnicities that united under the Afghan flag. What a ing joke.
    I don't know, for me I don't understand their "AFG Pride" they stick til death


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