Did they skip an entire age in the series?

[duncan]

It looks like they just jumped to 18th century with E:TW, and ended in the early 16th century with M2:TW, what about the 1500's-1600's, is that period generally considered too similar to medieval ages or something?

[Bolkonsky]

I'd like to see one for that era as well...

[Emperor Napolean Bonaparte IX]

thats basically what etw was but before the 1600 there was no big important colonies

[eregost]

I'll be controversial here and say its because during that time period the Ottomans dominated europe and so CA didn't want to cover it cause it didn't have a strong western nation in charge.

[Claudius Gothicus]

I'll be controversial here and say its because during that time period the Ottomans dominated europe and so CA didn't want to cover it cause it didn't have a strong western nation in charge.

That's more of an ignorant comment than a controversial one.

During the late 1500's to the late 1600's existed several European states with varying levels of power.
In fact the 1600's where the start of the Ottoman decadence. The Hapsburg's were VERY powerful and France was starting to become a Continental Powerhouse too.

[Angrychris]

Large empires that would cut the roster down. Be cool to have dark ages with the viking colonising, harlemagne's empire split, and various societies.

[spanish_emperor]

Well, it is the dream era for spaniards, portugese and ottomans. Pike and Shot is more fun than people believe and i was really dissapointed that they went straight to Empire though a thought they might do an expansion of the era but they didn't. Then i thought we could mod empire to the era but empire is not moddable. And now they went to the Napoleonic era which is great but still.

Plenty of colonies for Spain, Portugal and the Dutch. The English during that time were not a super power and this is probably why CA ignored this period. Yet they had the English Civil War to deal with which made them stronger. You got the fight between Aztecs, Inca empires plus all the other strong natives in america. You have the Kongo Empire in Africa, etc. You have the Wars in Italy between the French and Spanish, the thirty year war in Germany, The Turkish War, the unification of Russia by Peter the Great. And in science the telescope is invented and other important science advancements. Galileo is killed by the inquisition, Shakespeare's era, etc.
Others include the wars between Spain and Netherlands, the war between Sweden and the Holy Roman Empire, the conquest of Moscow by the Polish-Lithuanian forces, the golden years of the Mughal Empire and the wars between the Ottomans and Mameluke Egypt.

And dozens more things which i can't be bothered writing down now.

[Killerbee]

So ? They also skipped the dark ages afaik ?

[fatrobin]

Yet they had the English Civil War to deal with which made them stronger.

i would like to see that done in a nice clean way (the med 2 mod for it is ok but i think it could be better)

You got the fight between Aztecs, Inca empires plus all the other strong natives in america.

kingdoms covered that

You have the Wars in Italy between the French and Spanish, the thirty year war in Germany, The Turkish War, the unification of Russia by Peter the Great. And in science the telescope is invented and other important science advancements. Galileo is killed by the inquisition, Shakespeare's era, etc.
Others include the wars between Spain and Netherlands, the war between Sweden and the Holy Roman Empire, the conquest of Moscow by the Polish-Lithuanian forces, the golden years of the Mughal Empire and the wars between the Ottomans and Mameluke Egypt.

And dozens more things which i can't be bothered writing down now.

all of which i would like to see

hmmm maybe a kingdoms style lots of small campaigns due to most of them e.g. English Civil War is not big enough for its own game for example ok some would be more or less

but yes they did miss out the dark ages... this time

i would suggest throwing several of the ones which would sell the best if thrown together and sending the makers an email proposing a game which has that list of mini campaigns in it...

i would also suggest to people going add such and such war to NTW to collate several small things together and send it to them in a formal proposal

as shown by them going to NTW they seem to be focusing more on mulitple campaigns with a highly focused time-line which is possibly due to how they had covered most major time periods for war in rome, med (and med2) and empire.

[Mangalore]

.... Galileo is killed by the inquisition, ....

Galileo was not killed by the inquisition. Neither was Kopernikus by the way.

I'd rather like a return to an alternate continent (warring states would be my favourite)

[eregost]

Again because Muslims were stronger during that period too.

[Final Frontier]

They could have a game for the period from 1500~ to 1700~. I'd just be curious about how they add the Renaissance into the game, so that it's more than just events scrolling down that detail the creation of works. If an expansion pack was made for it, they could include various wars that occurred during those few hundred years as the focus.

As for the Dark Ages, they could start it when Justinian became empire of the ERE, but that might suggest a "Romaphilic" game again. It could end at the year of Manzikert, to complete the circle!

[Copperknickers II]

It looks like they just jumped to 18th century with E:TW, and ended in the early 16th century with M2:TW, what about the 1500's-1600's, is that period generally considered too similar to medieval ages or something?

The Total War series is not Chronological. They did Shogun first, then medieval, then Rome, then Medieval again.

[Janne]

The Total War series is not Chronological. They did Shogun first, then medieval, then Rome, then Medieval again.

Copperknickers is right. Also, what's with the digital chip on the shoulders of some people in this thread? 1700-1800 is probably one of the most interesting times in history, I'd say much more so than the couple of centuries before. To say it's only because Britain wasn't colonizing at the time like other nations, or because the Ottoman empire was strong doesn't make much sense. If CA is such a western/british-centric company then why did they start with Shogun?

I think one of the major reasons the time period for E:TW was chosen is because of the American revolution, which is surely one of the most important and interesting occurances in human history. Surely another major reason is to set the stage for Napoleon.

[Copperknickers II]

I think one of the major reasons the time period for E:TW was chosen is because of the American revolution, which is surely one of the most important and interesting occurances in human history.

I don't find it half as interesting as the Cultural Revolution or the American Civil War. The only reason it is interesting at all for non-Americans is America's modern status as a Superpower, in which obviously the foundations were made for the current nation. From a military point of view it is not really interesting at all, some 'heroic' battles, a constitution, a new country. Compare that to Russia or India, and you tell me which one you would rather study.

Though tbh, no period of history is outright 'more interesting' than another. I don't find late medieval interesting, others do, wherein lies the basis of the argument. Everyone has different tastes, so all CA can do is get a varied shot at different types and periods of warfare. Why they chose Shogun though is still beyond me.

[fatrobin]

shhh people forget about the old ones... they were not as pretty

[magpie]

they did a bit of the dark ages, with the expansion of mtw, viking invasion. Although a full on game say from 500 ad to 1066 ad would be nice.

[Angrychris]

Thats what im saying