Global Warming Alarmism Continues To Unravel

[Gauvin]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100118/...mate_himalayas

The U.N. panel of climate scientists said Monday it was reviewing a report containing a little-known projection that Himalayan glaciers might vanish by 2035, a finding trenchantly criticized by the Indian government.

Ramesh had said in November that a paper commissioned by the Indian government had found no conclusive evidence to link the retreat of Himalayan glaciers to climate change.

He said many of India's 9,500 Himalayan glaciers are shrinking, but some are shrinking at a slower rate or even increasing.

[Simon Cashmere]

If people really believe in global warming, I have a solution. Get rid of sheep, cows and pigs. That's all.

If its really so important, get rid of the livestock that produce most of the greenhouse emissions.

[Lord Rahl]

The problem I have with the whole global warming thing is, if the seas are really going to rise 20, 30, whatever feet, then that would mean cities, and millions upon millions of people, would be underwater. So, if global warming is real, and the seas are going to rise so much, wouldn't it be a good idea to stop building in cities on the shore, get flood insurance for everyone who lives by the ocean, etc.? You hear everyone talk about the rising seas...but not what should be done about it (except for cap and trade).

Or the seas actually aren't going to do that and people are making a big deal about global warming when they shouldn't.

[Gaidin]

The problem I have with the whole global warming thing is, if the seas are really going to rise 20, 30, whatever feet, then that would mean cities, and millions upon millions of people, would be underwater. So, if global warming is real, and the seas are going to rise so much, wouldn't it be a good idea to stop building in cities on the shore, get flood insurance for everyone who lives by the ocean, etc.? You hear everyone talk about the rising seas...but not what should be done about it (except for cap and trade).

Or the seas actually aren't going to do that and people are making a big deal about global warming when they shouldn't.

Screw flood insurance. What you really need is evacuation.

[alhoon]

The problem I have with the whole global warming thing is, if the seas are really going to rise 20, 30, whatever feet, then that would mean cities, and millions upon millions of people, would be underwater. So, if global warming is real, and the seas are going to rise so much, wouldn't it be a good idea to stop building in cities on the shore, get flood insurance for everyone who lives by the ocean, etc.? You hear everyone talk about the rising seas...but not what should be done about it (except for cap and trade).

Or the seas actually aren't going to do that and people are making a big deal about global warming when they shouldn't.

The seas aren't going to rise by 30 feet. But even then, the climate change affects us all. Deserts are expanding in the whole world and the glaciers are shrinking.

And to think... we're in a small iceage since 2004. Temperature on the planet should have dropped about half a degree by now. Instead it keeps rising.

[Bleda]

If people really believe in global warming, I have a solution. Get rid of sheep, cows and pigs. That's all.

If its really so important, get rid of the livestock that produce most of the greenhouse emissions.

At that rate we should be wary of anything that poops. Those damn polar bears take huge dumps that are ruining the ozone. I wish Obama would hurry up and start his "cap and tax" policy so the world will be saved from all the bullcrap floating around this issue.

You really trust the Indian government on this?

They are notorious for disavowing, rejecting, or blocking just about anything that could cause a problem for their development.

Because global warming advocates know whats best for developing economies? More likely, their government isn't going to sit idly by while developed nations and their NGO's stifle economic growth despite the fact that already developed nations didn't play by those rules when they developed.

[xcorps]

It's this milleniums Rapture. That's all. Nothing more and nothing less.

[motiv-8]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100118/...mate_himalayas

You really trust the Indian government on this?

They are notorious for disavowing, rejecting, or blocking just about anything that could cause a problem for their development.

[MathiasOfAthens]

The question is still "Is global warming man made or a natural occurrence over the centuries" A mini Ice age for example occurred almost a 1000 years ago.
Still what to do about it.

[Phier]

The question is how did non-peer reviewed science, which was really nothing more than an comment go from the completely biased and rather unscientific (when it comes to AGW) publication New Scientist into an official IPCC report.

Even the people at New Scientist are concerned about it, and they are about as pro-AGW as you are going to find outside of Real Climate (you know the guys from the emails ).



Even weirder it seems the IPCC may have KNOWN about the error and ignored it...

http://www.canada.com/technology/cli...973/story.html

[Gaidin]

http://www.canada.com/technology/cli...973/story.html

Kaser suggested the initial error originated from a misreading of a 1996 Russian study or from findings on a handful of glaciers that were mistakenly extended to apply to the whole region.

In either case, he suggested, the fact that it found its way into the report underpinning global climate negotiations signalled the need for a reform of the way the IPCC collects and reviews data.

"The review community has entirely failed" in this instance, he said.

Kaser was a lead author in Working Group I of the IPCC report, which dealt with the physical science of climate change.

Its conclusions -- that climate change is "unequivocal" and poses a major threat -- remain beyond reproach, he said.

The prediction for the Himalayan glaciers was contained in the separately published Working Group II report, which assessed likely impacts of climate change.

More specifically, the chapter focussed on an assessment of Asia, authored by scientists from the region.
"This is a source of a lot of misunderstandings, misconceptions or failures," Kaser said, noting that some regions lacked a broad spectrum of expertise.

"It is a kind of amateurism from the regional chapter lead authors. They may have been good hydrologists or botanists, but they were without any knowledge in glaciology."

Kaser said some of the scientists from other regional groups took heed of suggestions, and made corrections ahead of final publication in April 2007.

But the Asia group did not. "I pointed it out," he said of the implausible prediction on the glaciers.

Man...wow. SMOOTH....

[Phier]

Man...wow. SMOOTH....

Ugh, do you take EVERYTHING at face value my boy?

Doing so will make life hard for you, I hope you learn this.



I mean come on man, recognize spin when you see it and learn to trust uncle Phier.

[Gaidin]

Ugh, do you take EVERYTHING at face value my boy?

Doing so will make life hard for you, I hope you learn this.



I mean come on man, recognize spin when you see it and learn to trust uncle Phier.

Dude I suggest you learn how to read because I'm actually agreeing with you on this glacier thing(You know, that thing your article talks about, and I highlighted parts that SUPPORT YOUR STATEMENT and in a nutshell called the people that work the Asian region ffffing idiots). If you have a problem with me posting in anything that has to do with global warming whichever side I take I suggest you either stop replying to me or start complaining to moderators because its not going to stop and this whole Uncle Phier thing is ffffing stupid.

[handsome pete]

Do we all agree that CO2 levels have gone up dramatically since the industrial revolution ?

and that the amount of CO2 being released by cars and industry is calculable

second question, do we all agree that CO2 reflects UV light but not visible light?

and can be used to create a green house the way glass can

Is the part that people disagree on, the extent to which a CO2 green house effect causes warming. and if you're of the opinion that the warming affect is naturally occurring are you suggesting that there is another affect causing warming and if so can you tell us what it is?

[Gaidin]

Do we all agree that CO2 levels have gone up dramatically since the industrial revolution ?

The argument has never really been about whether it's happening. It's about how bad it is and if human activity is a major cause.

[Angrychris]

I dont need global warming to teach me that its stupid ot live along a cliff or near the water.

[magpie]

In my opinion, The major increase in C02 levels has been caused by the motor car, The massive expansion of its use by the worlds population since the 1950's and the amount of C02 discharged by the average car driving 1 kilometre would tend to support this. Industrial contributions I would say are not the major cause, as they tend to stay fairly steady,closing down in the west and reopening in the east.
Animals cattle,pigs ect do contribute, but a lot of this can be blamed on the vast area,s of forest land which acted as carbon sinks, being cleared and the land turned over to cattle ranching.
Also humans fart, and the human population has shown a huge increase in the last few decades.
Planners had better start building on higher ground.

[VALIS]

When it comes to global warming, I only care about one thing. Will sea levels rise drastically? Will entire cities be flooded by 30 foot waves?
If not, then I could care less about global warming, oooo a 1 degree celsius increase, scary. The world changes, get use to it and stop whining. If there's a serious threat then sure, I'm all for action, but if everyones getting frightened over a little bit of warmer weather, than so friggin what?

[EireEmerald]

When it comes to global warming, I only care about one thing. Will sea levels rise drastically? Will entire cities be flooded by 30 foot waves?
If not, then I could care less about global warming, oooo a 1 degree celsius increase, scary. The world changes, get use to it and stop whining. If there's a serious threat then sure, I'm all for action, but if everyones getting frightened over a little bit of warmer weather, than so friggin what?

Well thats not all there is to worry about boyo. There is the freezing over of Britain and Ireland to worry about as well as the drift freezes, and the eventual lack of food.

[Syron]

Well thats not all there is to worry about boyo. There is the freezing over of Britain and Ireland to worry about as well as the drift freezes, and the eventual lack of food.

Someone's been watching a bit too much of The Day After Tomorrow.

You see the problem is this theorised freezing has supposedly got to do with the shutting down of the Gulf Stream. Before then our climate should supposedly warm like everywhere else..

Well this winter is one hell of an outlier..........