End of Turn problem still present?

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  1. GTFO. Jamie's Avatar

    GTFO. Jamie said:

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    as many people will know, ETW takes just short of forever when you end your turn at the later stages in the game. Due to all the nations making their moves etc, you end up sat there for ages as the game tries to process the changes.

    I am hoping this issue will not be so bad in NTW, as it was one of the key reason which puts players off for from a long Grand campaign in ETW.

    Am keeping a eye on recent previews and developer updates, but i dont think either have mentioned the end of turn loading times. Anyone come across any?

    If its unchanged, then you pretty much have to start a new campaign when youve been playing one for a while which is annoying
     
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    Nicolaos said:

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    i think they mentioned in a preview longer loading times
     
  3. Frost, colonel said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolaos View Post
    i think they mentioned in a preview longer loading times
    This is for battles.

    I have several long term campaigns for ETWv1.5, few have had the long end turns, and that only for the biggest empires, I have found if the problem occurs it does go away, depending on what the faction is doing.
     
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    TheAussieDigger said:

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    it should be better cos there are less nations, leass armies, less navies and less land to process

     
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    hitokiri2486 said:

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    If I had to guess why CA has not spoken specifically about this, it'd be because not everyone suffers from really long end of turn loading times.
    Let me persuade you with my powerful logic skills.

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  6. Cozur said:

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    Takes me about 20 seconds from I end my turn till it starts again.
     
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    GTFO. Jamie said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cozur View Post
    Takes me about 20 seconds from I end my turn till it starts again.
    same for me for the first few campaign years, but ive read many times that peoples games turn pretty much unplayable when they are about 40-60 years into their campaign.
     
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    James Cook said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTFO. Jamie View Post
    same for me for the first few campaign years, but ive read many times that peoples games turn pretty much unplayable when they are about 40-60 years into their campaign.
    I have the same problem the longer I go with my campaings, the longer they take

    and my pc specs are as good as they can get allmost

    dual core 3.0
    ram/memory 8gb
     
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    GTFO. Jamie said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cook View Post
    I have the same problem the longer I go with my campaings, the longer they take

    and my pc specs are as good as they can get allmost

    dual core 3.0
    ram/memory 8gb
    exactly, ive seen quite a few people mentioning similar problems and you still get the occasional "get a better pc" reply, but that is not a valid reason. I have seen people stating they are on i7 with 6gb of ram etc and dual gfx card and still experience the issue, and then some people with similar hardware not noticing a thing.

    So it definitely seems varied and is not a simple "your pc sucks" problem

    I believed it was connected to memory leaks as there used to be a lot of mention of them in relation to loading times. Hopefully in NTW with less nations and a smaller map, the time at end of turns in long ongoing campaigns wont be so long.

    Worst ive ever seen is someone reporting it took 42 minutes , though ive never had anything that bad myself!
     
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    Yojimbo said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cozur View Post
    Takes me about 20 seconds from I end my turn till it starts again.
    Same here you just need a pc that doesnt suck. mine stays at 20 seconds even in year 1800 where im at now

    The map lags big time and i think etw has a memory leak as the performance just dies after a few battles.
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    Mikelus Trento said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitokiri2486 View Post
    If I had to guess why CA has not spoken specifically about this, it'd be because not everyone suffers from really long end of turn loading times.
    If I had to guess, it'd be because it hasn't been fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    If I had to guess, it'd be because it hasn't been fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudakite View Post
    Or it can't be fixed...
    or they cant locate the cause of the problem
     
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    johncage said:

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    some people have experienced 20 minute turns in late campaign when faction like the ottomans or russia expands to great size. and recently, they've announced that the loading will take even longer.

    my computer, which has specs exactly the same as the recommended specs for etw sputters out at around 1770 with ottoman activity causing turns to last anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes.

    so yeah, the definition of a computer that can run this game smoothly is anything significantly better than the recommended specs.
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  15. Cameraman said:

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    It's usually very quick for me but every once in a while a really big nation will take a ridiculously long turn. One time it took the Marathas nearly 10 minutes and then next turn just a couple seconds... I think there's definitely room for improvement here but hopefully it will be quicker. The fact there's only one theater may make things a little quicker but at the same time there are probably more factions. Officially they haven't said it would take longer just one preview said it did (I think it was referring to the loading screen and not the turns) and that was likely with an early preview copy. We also don't know what kind of system they were running.
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    its usually caused by them because Marathas and ottos build up massive armies that they take ages to move. Everyone else has fewer armies since they are constantly fighting.
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  17. nameless said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForlornHope. View Post
    its usually caused by them because Marathas and ottos build up massive armies that they take ages to move. Everyone else has fewer armies since they are constantly fighting.
    No it's more like they build a massive number of armies (from full size to just one man armies) to the point that the AI has 80 armies to move which hogs the system.

    This doesn't happen but when playing on VH the chances of it happening is higher because the AI gets more money. I found H to be an okay balance when playing as russia.
     
  18. Frost, colonel said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameraman View Post
    Officially they haven't said it would take longer just one preview said it did (I think it was referring to the loading screen and not the turns) and that was likely with an early preview copy.
    It was regarding the battle maps loading up, because of AI positioning/reading the terrain, and the new lighting effects I think.
     
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    burden010 said:

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    Well I doubt it's a memory problem you're having as the turn's will be using more processor power than anything. Unless your whole game is slow like this then it's unlikely to be memory. Especially if it's the same with a late term loaded game.

    If the issue is with more armies moving around, it's going to be processor that's the issue.

    Anyway, I'm happy to say I don't get the issue, then again I do have a quad core processor so... take from that what you will.
     
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    GTFO. Jamie said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by burden010 View Post
    Well I doubt it's a memory problem you're having as the turn's will be using more processor power than anything. Unless your whole game is slow like this then it's unlikely to be memory. Especially if it's the same with a late term loaded game.

    If the issue is with more armies moving around, it's going to be processor that's the issue.

    Anyway, I'm happy to say I don't get the issue, then again I do have a quad core processor so... take from that what you will.
    well i have the exact same processor and amount of ram as you do, but a 4870 gfx card instead. It seems to effect the games some times, and then sometimes doesnt have a effect at all. So it may be down to how many armies are being moved by the AI etc.

    But i do not think its down to the performance of individuals computers, as people with better processors then both you and i have also mentioned the issue before.