No colonies?

Is this true? Something that Empire DID do good was the possibility of creating either a domestic empire or a colonial trading empire. Now for the first time i've watched some vids/screenshots of NTW and I've noticed there is only an European map with only a few major factions to play in the GC.

I hoped the next installment would include the African/(South)-Asian theatres, something Empire lacked. Now they even gone a step backwards by only including Europe... Please tell me this isn't true. Empire was flawed in so many ways, but it's scope was one of the few things that made it enjoyable for a while.

sorry no colonies

I find that just colossally stupid. They are effectively taking a vast step back, by removing India and America.

Both other theatres had a major effect on the main European War.

In India, Britain had to commit soldiers and money to fight the Maratha Wars (1799-1803) which weakened it somewhat in Europe.

And in America, when the Americans started the pointless war of 1812, Britain had to divert troops, money and plenty of ships away from the Penninsula and Europe to fight the uppity Yanks.

So basically, not only is CA losing historical accuracy here, but its also taking a giant leap backwards, reversing one of the three most significant innovations of ETW...the extended map.

Originally Posted by HMS Empire Broadsword

I find that just colossally stupid. They are effectively taking a vast step back, by removing India and America.

Both other theatres had a major effect on the main European War.

In India, Britain had to commit soldiers and money to fight the Maratha Wars (1799-1803) which weakened it somewhat in Europe.

And in America, when the Americans started the pointless war of 1812, Britain had to divert troops, money and plenty of ships away from the Penninsula and Europe to fight the uppity Yanks.

So basically, not only is CA losing historical accuracy here, but its also taking a giant leap backwards, reversing one of the three most significant innovations of ETW...the extended map.

The Napoleonic Wars were primarily fought on Continental Europe, to add in America and India again would just create another Empire game only in an ever so slightly different time period. The game would be very Un-Napoleonic.

Originally Posted by HMS Empire Broadsword

I find that just colossally stupid. They are effectively taking a vast step back, by removing India and America.

Both other theatres had a major effect on the main European War.

In India, Britain had to commit soldiers and money to fight the Maratha Wars (1799-1803) which weakened it somewhat in Europe.

And in America, when the Americans started the pointless war of 1812, Britain had to divert troops, money and plenty of ships away from the Penninsula and Europe to fight the uppity Yanks.

So basically, not only is CA losing historical accuracy here, but its also taking a giant leap backwards, reversing one of the three most significant innovations of ETW...the extended map.

Why would devs remake ETW ? By having the same largish map scale they would do just that. Personally I like smaller scale campaign map with less factions but more detailed rosters and focus on political relations.
Not that I say NTW would deliver all the goodies, since this remains yet to be seen.

Let's not forget that Napoleon sold Louisiana to the United States in 1803, so French interest in the "New World" was at a low by the Grand Campaign's start date of 1805!

Wow, I am so not buying this game...

Aye, America, India and Africa SHOULD be there. NTW trades historical accuracy at cost of much bigger amount of freedom in game :/.

Well seeing that Anatolia and north africa are missing, do you really expected to have any colonies? I´m talking about the grand campaign by the way, not the smaller ones.

Originally Posted by Retlol

Aye, America, India and Africa SHOULD be there. NTW trades historical accuracy at cost of much bigger amount of freedom in game :/.

Hey, hey! Don't you go and complain about this! I hear almost all the time "this is not historicaly correct", and "What!? This is not how it was!". And now that they are making this, you say "please, not historicaly correct!"

I can picture a War of 1812 DLC pack/campaign which will add the United States and North America.

The game is based on Napoleon.

Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg

The game is based on Napoleon.

And his enemies and potential friends, therefore the war of 1812, Britains colonies, the Caribean islands etc...

Also without colonies how will Britain get her income?

Originally Posted by DoomBunny666

And his enemies and potential friends, therefore the war of 1812, Britains colonies, the Caribean islands etc...

Also without colonies how will Britain get her income?

Yep. I don`t know much about nappy, but i do know you cannot have GB and France and all that without everything else involved with it. Colonies were still vitally important. The napoleon situation was not isolated into a little linear scope that CA are turning it into. How can anyone even play this game and feel they`re doing anything historical?

For a standalone to be this limiting is quite shocking. It was shocking when I first heard about it and it still is now.

Originally Posted by DoomBunny666

And his enemies and potential friends, therefore the war of 1812, Britains colonies, the Caribean islands etc...

Also without colonies how will Britain get her income?

If you think like that you'll have to reconsider the potential enemies of India and the americans,
in the end you'd have to make the whole world for a game based on Napoleon?

That's just stupid.

Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg

If you think like that you'll have to reconsider the potential enemies of India and the americans,
in the end you'd have to make the whole world for a game based on Napoleon?

That's just stupid.

or they could just include significant events during napoleons time to make the game more realistic? (like war of 1812, and whatever happened in india) Besides, britton had a trading empire all over the world, now who do they trade with?

it also would take a long time to get to the colonies with 2week turns however parts of africa and asia should be included

Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg

If you think like that you'll have to reconsider the potential enemies of India and the americans,
in the end you'd have to make the whole world for a game based on Napoleon?

That's just stupid.

And then well have to consider the Martians, and Spock and the Klingons, and Darth Vader and his Stormtroopers...

The idea is you draw an appropriate line for a game that centers on Nappy himself and his enemies, therefore, America and India should be included...

i would of liked their to be africa and the americas available, but im not gonna stop myself from buying the game just because of that.

The game is focused around Napoleon, and therefore focuses heavily on europe and from what i understand the map of europe will be far more detailed then ever.

Hopefully the next step for total war will be highly detailed campaign map like in NTW but covers americas and africa etc.

Originally Posted by DoomBunny666

And then well have to consider the Martians, and Spock and the Klingons, and Darth Vader and his Stormtroopers...

The idea is you draw an appropriate line for a game that centers on Nappy himself and his enemies, therefore, America and India should be included...

The appropriate line is Europe, since Napoleon never was in America or India.
They will only include areas where Napoleon was and where he had the most influence.