Guilds

[Cartman]

hey guys. im currently playing a campaign as the Crusader States (Newest RR\RC) and the only guilds im offered is the Hospitaller guild, and never the Templar guild wich is the one i want right now, is there any reason for this or is it just random?

thanks in advance

[JorisofHolland]

Take a look in descr_guilds.txt, in \Medieval II\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data
All the triggers for guilds are in it, just scroll through (or use Ctrl + F and search for Templar) and you'll see the triggers one by one.

In vanilla SS it was like this:
You gain points for both guilds by joining crusades, but also for recruiting their troops. Your standing with the Hospitalers will also increase when you have chivalrous governors, I believe. But I'm not sure how things are in RR/RC, I haven't played as catholics yet.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

*cough**, Hospitaler Guild + settlements = win {+one free upkeep slot plus 5% health bonus, 10% for chapter Hdqrs.}**cough**

[JorisofHolland]

Hospitallers: 15% health (headquarter), 2 more defence (units), 1 free-upkeep (headquarter)
Templars: Trade (headquarter), 2 more attack and may charge without order (units), 1 free-upkeep (headquarter)

Yes I know many people prefer Hospitallers above Templars (I'm among them) but he has to choose himself. As long as he makes the right choice

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Ya...**cough, what dude sandwhiched between my posts said... **cough*8 {and....NO. You get +1 free upkeep slot starting at the regular chapter....} at least inSS6.2

[JorisofHolland]

Well now your two posts are sandwiched between my 3! :

The Templars grant a +1 trade bonus, increasing as the building increases
Hospitallers same for health.

[SoulBlade]

You forgot the Dismounted Hospitallers.
but for Norway i'd prefer Templars, since they have enough heavy infantry and no special cav.

[JorisofHolland]

You forgot the Dismounted Hospitallers.
but for Norway i'd prefer Templars, since they have enough heavy infantry and no special cav.

In 6.2, as well as in RR/RC, both houses provide knights and dismounted knights, they only have slightly different stats.

[Cartman]

Thanks for the replies..yeah the hospitaller knights and guild is better, but i got like 5-6 of them now, so i want to have at least 1 templar guild too ..haha nice signature SoulBlade!, i am from norway and listen to black metal so i can agree with that xD

[Caesar Clivus]

Thanks for the replies..yeah the hospitaller knights and guild is better, but i got like 5-6 of them now, so i want to have at least 1 templar guild too

Once you choose one, that is all you'll get. So because you have 5 or 6 Hospitaller guilds, you wont get any Templar offers.

[Cartman]

Once you choose one, that is all you'll get. So because you have 5 or 6 Hospitaller guilds, you wont get any Templar offers.

well that explains it, thought i could have both

[kostimer]

Hi.
I am not sure about newest RR/RC but in stainless steel 6.1 You can have both guilds, all you need to do is edit export_descr_guilds and delete the lines "exclude templar chapterhouse" and "exclude hospitaller chapterhouse". However I am not sure if you won't have to restart the campaign.
Cheers

[Cartman]

Hi.
I am not sure about newest RR/RC but in stainless steel 6.1 You can have both guilds, all you need to do is edit export_descr_guilds and delete the lines "exclude templar chapterhouse" and "exclude hospitaller chapterhouse". However I am not sure if you won't have to restart the campaign.
Cheers

thanks will try that later

[JorisofHolland]

You won't have to restart your campaign as you don't change files in the world folder, nor remove something that will cause a crash when you load your campaign.