Playing the High Elves

[Alex-ander]

I am playing the High Elves on H/H. Its my first time so i need advise with a couple of things. I am allied with the dwarves if i ask them to exchange maps they want military access which i don't really want to give them.

So should i exchange maps with the dwarves (they may turn on me) if they dont know where my cities are it will make it harder for them if or when they do attack me. Should i try to become allies with all the good factions

[Seleukos_I.]

They can't attack you when you're allied to them. Therefor you should try to get alliances with all good factions.

[Wrain]

I found hard to make alliance with any of the good faction as HE in 1.4. Don't know why was, so much easier with 1.3 but they shouldn't attack you anyway.
Leave the dwarves alone and if u really want an alliance with them try with offering some useless region. Focus on conquering Isengard and OotMM to get a nice economy.

[gluteus maximus aurelius]

Try exchanging maps and add a few florins in instead? Personally I've never had much use for maps, preferring to do my work with spies etc. But allying with all the good nations is a good idea, in my campaigns the SE and Dale always end up at war with each other though. HE are pretty damn good at everything, especially when you get elven archers, who will tear new ones for orcs everywhere

[Bloodzen]

Strange in my HE vh/vh campaign all of the good factions were eager to accept an alliance with me except for Dale who were a bit persistent but finally came around and accepted.
This may been because I was fighting Isengard and the Oomm,the other factions like you more if you attack their enemys.

I wouldn't go so far as to giving away a region for an alliance,offering trade rights,map info and sometimes military access should make them accept.

[Bloodzen]

Delete this - Double post

[Russian Gondor]

Whats so bad about giving military access? They cannot harm a fly that says "property of high elves" the only way they can is if they come with a diplomat and say I DECLARE WAR and you say YES PLEASE.

[FOR GONDOR]

military wise i whink you should have alot of eldar spearmen 3-4 units 2-3 units of calvary, 1-4 units of eldar swordsmen, 3-5 units of eldar archers, and a few units of worriors of mirthlod and a general that combination is good for affensive charges and defensive , in defensive make shield wall with the spearmen and make half an octogon, and place all other units behind it following the same shape and a line of archers

[gluteus maximus aurelius]

military wise i whink you should have alot of eldar spearmen 3-4 units 2-3 units of calvary, 1-4 units of eldar swordsmen, 3-5 units of eldar archers, and a few units of worriors of mirthlod and a general that combination is good for affensive charges and defensive , in defensive make shield wall with the spearmen and make half an octogon, and place all other units behind it following the same shape and a line of archers

Personally I never have anything less than 6 units of Eldar archers in my armies, with 2 catapults, 4 units of cavalry, then 3 spears + 4 swords, or 4 spears + 3 swords. Eldar archers will destroy enemy infantry and are better than most other infantry in melee anyways. Catapults are a must for me as it means I can usually ignore the garrison script of settlements are take the cities straight away, plus they'll get you a fair few kills

[FOR GONDOR]

that may be true but if you put the spearmen in an spearwall fromation and have the archers behind thm (i also put alot of archers in my armies) then as soo as they reach the spearwall they willl retreat after 2 kills on my part it works every time its a great stratagy and it works for any arrangement of units even with out the spearwall and like me who always lets the enamy come to me or get into formation and march to capture a hill it is brilliant and works for almosty every faction as well

[damnmap]

High elves was an interesting faction to play as... their early game feels like you are roleplaying. Lots of desperate struggles where you are massively outnumbered by huge orc armies. If I had one criticism it would be that their economy is kind of weedy... they have 3/4 towns linked with naval trade yet they pdon't make much money, there are towns that make 1000+ in the middle of nowhere

[andropov4]

military wise i whink you should have alot of eldar spearmen 3-4 units 2-3 units of calvary, 1-4 units of eldar swordsmen, 3-5 units of eldar archers, and a few units of worriors of mirthlod and a general that combination is good for affensive charges and defensive , in defensive make shield wall with the spearmen and make half an octogon, and place all other units behind it following the same shape and a line of archers

I actually prefer to tailor my unit mix to my foe. If they have strong cavalry, lots of spears. Large numbers of heavy infantry, archers will do well. Enemy is fond of archers, close quickly with cavalry. I think you get the idea. It is not particularly complicated.

[Bulvine]

I actually prefer to tailor my unit mix to my foe. If they have strong cavalry, lots of spears. Large numbers of heavy infantry, archers will do well. Enemy is fond of archers, close quickly with cavalry. I think you get the idea. It is not particularly complicated.

I usually field an appropriate army depending on what units my opponent makes...but not with the high elves...it archers archers and more archers all the time. I get one central spot for cavalry much later in the campaign vs isengard (i kill or minimize ootm first)...usually in ost-in-edhil. Kinda need cavalry to make money off of routing uruks and such. Isengard rarely pays, but when they do it's a good chest of gold. I've never needed cavalry to smash ootm at all.

[jản]

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[Michelet]

Yes you understood corectly ,capital in centre even if it is a village

[ToTi]

Thanks. Never before change capital, its kill atmosfere.. If i play for mordor and try dominate on all gondor provinces, then best solution is make minas trith my new capital.. Oh thats insane

[MAMO72]

I'm currently playing my first campaign as HE on a VH/VH level after two campaigns with SE; as HE I'm making the following steps:
- I have changed capital from Imladris to Mithlond and knocked down corruption;
- set the tax rate to high unless the population growth stay at the 0,5%; You will have your advanced units later but remember that generally the Elven units are better than the medium of the others factions, so you won't suffer any particular disadvantage for the first 50/70 turns at least;
- built any economy building as soon as possible in every settlements you own excluding Imladris;
- make alliances with every good factions asap in exchange of trade rights; at this moment (turn 75) i'm allied with all the good factions a part Dale;
- I think that the first target for HE should be Eryn Vorn, Lond Daer and LOnd Angren; try to conquest these settlements asap even if you must do war against Isengard (it happens to me) and exchange other useless settlements for those I wrote up or for money (a regular tribute is preferred to me);
- move war to Isengard sooner and try to destroy it before they reach a level of power useful to conquer Rohan (I destroyied them around turn 65);
- During this period of time try to keep at bay OOMM; Imladris will be a good stronghold to do that; with 4 eleven infantry and 5/6 light archers you will be able to reach this goal;
- Once, and only once, you have destoyied Isengard, start to build your army for the next step that, for me, should be the conquest of Moria (than you give to the Dwarves in exchange of military access if you haven't yet) and the retake of the territories the SE should probably have lost to give them back; try to conquest the Ents city (i don't remember the name);
- with the Rammas I found Gondor much more hard to beat from Mordor, fine, you have much more time to build your economy at a level that will allow you to raise another stack to send in their help; to do that it will be fine if you keep Goben Tolfalas as your permanent settlement by which you can reinforce your army and make pressure on Harad;

Hope I help you

[Alex-ander]

Thanks everybody some useful tips looks like war with Isenguard is inevitable

Is a fight against one of the good factions inevitable. It seems like eventually to get the 40 regions and destroy Mordor i will need to do this.

[gluteus maximus aurelius]

Not necessarily, but Eriador is fairly useless, so it'll probably end up being them. For me Gondor and Rohan will get pummelled for a while, and if I don't help out they'll die. The Dwarves rarely seem to do much in the West and so keeping on friendly terms with them is a strong possibility, and you're too far away from the SE and Dale to realistically worried by them, and in the majority of my campaigns they too will succumb to the raging hordes of evil. I've found that by taking out Isengard, OOTM and Mordor I've got more than enough land, while killing Eriador is always nice coz you get to see some lovely Hobbit corpses.....just me?

[andropov4]

killing Eriador is always nice coz you get to see some lovely Hobbit corpses.....just me?

Wow. Just..wow.