Evangelist Pat Robertson claims that the Haitian earthquake was caused by a "Pact with the Devil".

[Monarchist]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_422099.html

http://www.salon.com/news/haiti/inde...aiti_robertson

http://www.france24.com/en/20100113-...ade-devil-pact

So, yet another morally bankrupt Revivalist Protestant who thinks he's a gift from God to humanity has embarrassed himself. If you have a moment to listen in on his little talk, you may have to keep your eyes from falling because he's so boring. Regardless of how horribly uninteresting his personality is, his remarks are still powerfully bad. He claims that around 1791 the "people of Haiti" made a pact with Satan to throw off French colonials, and are now paying the price for it. Aside from the overt racist idea that "the people of Haiti" were/are a bunch of Voodooists, of course, there is the fact that 80% of the country is Roman Catholic. Of course, I suppose to extremely mean-spirited men as Robertson, Papism is just as bad as Devil Worship, isn't it?

Please, please, please don't lump the other 2/3 of Christianity in with the insane Protestants who speak in tongues and rant about divine retributions for things they don't even bother to understand. For example, Robertson mentions Napoleon III... even though it was under Napoleon I that Haiti gained independence. He's obviously just a misinformed spotlight whore with no morality left in him. He just seems to think that he has to yell "JYYYEESUS", and people will flock to him. If I didn't have trouble staying awake while listening to him, however, I would be much angrier. Did he even understand what he was saying?

[removeduser_487563287433]

I saw this. Of course, we knew the man was a disgrace already. But hey, without loyal foot soldiers he would just be incarcerated by now.

But most Haitians do practice Voodoo in some way.

[Gaidin]

Pat Robertson: unintended consequence of the first amendment.

[husker9.2]

Pat Robertson: unintended consequence of the first amendment.

yea exactly.

[Farnan]

So because one Protestant is insane all are?

[Gaidin]

So because one Protestant is insane all are?

They're not on the recieving end of this fallacy enough. Not that I'm promoting it, but I like watching it when the card is played.

[Arch-hereticK]

What do you mean "another morally bankrupt bla bla bal," I thought he was the original. He said in 1982 the world will end, he's just a scared child trapped in a dying old man's body.

I do hope that people don't start seeing him as something typical of the christian community.

Or maybe I do , then people would hate christians as much as I do.

[Monarchist]

I do hope that people don't start seeing him as something typical of the christian community.

Or maybe I do , then people would hate christians as much as I do.

The problem is that most Christians are not throwbacks like he is. Ironically, Protestantism came about because of individual rational conscience. He has totally corrupted Luther's reasoning for the Reformation, hasn't he?

So because one Protestant is insane all are?

I'm sorry for the generalisation, but I see so much of this garbage coming exclusively from Revivalists. It's always the Baptists and fringe denominations who spew the worst sort of nonsense like this. How often do you see the meek Catholics yelling about pacts with the Devil these days?

[Arch-hereticK]

I'm sorry for the generalisation, but I see so much of this garbage coming exclusively from Revivalists. It's always the Baptists and fringe denominations who spew the worst sort of nonsense like this. How often do you see the meek Catholics yelling about pacts with the Devil these days?

I don't think it's an innacurate generalisation, we can only judge any movement by its most prominent proponents, if they let themselves get bad publicity from their spoksemen then we can only assume that their followers agree.

So in the words of my sex coach: " them."

[Fiyenyaa]

The problem is that most Christians are not throwbacks like he is. Ironically, Protestantism came about because of individual rational conscience. He has totally corrupted Luther's reasoning for the Reformation, hasn't he?

Not really. Martin Luther wrote that reason was the enemy of faith, and if there's anyone that embodies a lack of reason, it's insane public weirdos like Robertson. These people don't care about what is true, they care about shouting things so horrific that it'll get them noticed.

I'm sorry for the generalisation, but I see so much of this garbage coming exclusively from Revivalists. It's always the Baptists and fringe denominations who spew the worst sort of nonsense like this. How often do you see the meek Catholics yelling about pacts with the Devil these days?

The advantage of having a central authority like catholics do is that things (such as this, presumably because it would look to most people very bad) that the leadership dissapproves of can be stopped. Protestantism has no such central authoriy, being divided up into many, much smaller churches. Since Robertson is I assume the head of his own church (or at least very influencial within it) he can pretty much choose what is dissapproved of - and therefore his church will not dissapprove of it. This allows thte mental fringe churches to say whatever the hell they want as long as the bloke in charge is crazy enough.

[gambit]

Pact with the Devil

Kamos

[cfmonkey45]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_422099.html

http://www.salon.com/news/haiti/inde...aiti_robertson

http://www.france24.com/en/20100113-...ade-devil-pact

So, yet another morally bankrupt Revivalist Protestant who thinks he's a gift from God to humanity has embarrassed himself. If you have a moment to listen in on his little talk, you may have to keep your eyes from falling because he's so boring. Regardless of how horribly uninteresting his personality is, his remarks are still powerfully bad. He claims that around 1791 the "people of Haiti" made a pact with Satan to throw off French colonials, and are now paying the price for it. Aside from the overt racist idea that "the people of Haiti" were/are a bunch of Voodooists, of course, there is the fact that 80% of the country is Roman Catholic. Of course, I suppose to extremely mean-spirited men as Robertson, Papism is just as bad as Devil Worship, isn't it?

Please, please, please don't lump the other 2/3 of Christianity in with the insane Protestants who speak in tongues and rant about divine retributions for things they don't even bother to understand. For example, Robertson mentions Napoleon III... even though it was under Napoleon I that Haiti gained independence. He's obviously just a misinformed spotlight whore with no morality left in him. He just seems to think that he has to yell "JYYYEESUS", and people will flock to him. If I didn't have trouble staying awake while listening to him, however, I would be much angrier. Did he even understand what he was saying?

My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires. Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you.
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.

If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

In the words of the first Bishop of Jerusalem, and brother of Yeshua bar Yosef, this man is a heretic.

[Stark of Winterfell]

I wonder what Pat Robertson would say if his house got flattened in an earthquake, or if he got cancer. Would he claim it to be a natural disaster then, or claim that God was punishing him?

[cfmonkey45]

I wonder what Pat Robertson would say if his house got flattened in an earthquake, or if he got cancer. Would he claim it to be a natural disaster then, or claim that God was punishing him?

"It would be the work of SATAN!" or "God testing me, for my faithfulness."


Reminds me of how those Fundamentalist preachers said that Hurricane Katrina was "God's Vengeance" on the Gay Community and the sinfulness of New Orleans. Yet, neither the gay community nor the French Quarter were harmed in that.

Suffice to say, and by reverting back to my excerpt, these people should seriously rethink their theology.

[Helm]

I think it had more to do with tectonic plates shifting.

[cfmonkey45]

I think it had more to do with tectonic plates shifting.

Yeah, but if God created the universe, wouldn't that mean that he also caused it?

[Dunecat]

The devil, or the consequence of European politics and a period of bloody uprisings?

Those slaves made a pact with the devil! :O

[Manco]

I'm pretty sure that if the devil existed, he'd like televangelists and their non-televised ilk.

[C-Rob]

... people can govern themselves douchebag!

The french also lost Algiers. I wonder what he has to say about those people. Probably more of, "good protestant Europeans should own the world!" Double douchebag.

I hate him so much.

[Dunecat]

The terrible irony is that I have been to the D.R., where haitian migrant workers are, and attended protestant services. Where no one has anything, there is no church, for many no "house", few can read, they have incredible passion and can relate to situations in the bible intimately.

Yet unknowingly they are being called the descendants of devil-worshipers. Robertson is an idiot.