EMPIRE TOTAL FLAGS V2.9 IDEAS THREAD

[JFC]

Version 2.9
DISCUSSION THREAD
EVERY FLAG OF ETW
(ETF2.7 + ETW VANILLA FLAGS)



PROPOSED NEW FLAGS for ETF 2.9

(Current Download: ETF)

[JFC]

Hey JFC,

I have a suggestion:
Can you replace all flags (even the vanilla ones which are historically correct) with your flags?
It may be that some vanilla flags are historically correct (e.g. GB), but it looks a little bit strange that are some flags with this "wavy" animation and your "immobile" flags. To be honost your flags look much better and realistic, so it would be nice if all flags have the effect you use for your flags.
I hope you can understand what I mean.

Best regards,

No0dle

I think that this suggestion is a valid one...

[I-the-gamer]

I think that this suggestion is a valid one...

I agree. Also just to avoid further annoyances, are you still considering the flag for the Prussian Republic or will you stick with the current one?

[JFC]

I agree. Also just to avoid further annoyances, are you still considering the flag for the Prussian Republic or will you stick with the current one?

Well after the debate where I used the imperial german flag, which was poo pooed, and the fact that the Schwarz Rot Geld flag is the vanilla, I was going to stick with the current one. However, if there is more of a want/need for the vanilla flag, i will endeavour to include it.

The Wavy Turn Flags have now been changed.

[No0dle]

The Wavy Turn Flags have now been changed.

Thank you very much! Great work

I would vote for the "Schwarz Rot Gold" flag as republic flag, too.
The reason is simple: the black-white-red one represents the monarchie and the current one doesn't exist ... so the black-red-gold flag is the only existing one which represents a republic.

Edit:
And there it is ... V2.7 with black-red-gold german republic flag ... you are really fast ...
Great support, thanks JFC!

[JFC]

2.7 now out.

[Sun Devil]

Are you ever going to include the current tricolor for any of the italian factions?

[Geronimo2006]

Suggested state republican flag of Sicily/Naples (Neapolitan/Parthenopean Republic flag 1799):

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Suggested Papal States/Italian states republican state flag (Roman Republic flag (1798-9):

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I don't really understand why you want to use the present-day Union Flag for a British Republic, given that Britain is a monarchy. Furthermore, the red-saltire representing Ireland never appeared in a British/English flag until the 1800 Act of Union incorporating Ireland into the British state and abolishing the Irish Parliament. Therefore, I propose the Cromwellian Commonwealth flag below (1653-58) as an alternative for a British republican state flag:

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For the British Republican Naval Flag, I propose this flag sourced from "Flags at Sea" (1986):

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[Sun Devil]

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I would use that for Savoy.

[JFC]

I don't really understand why you want to use the present-day Union Flag for a British Republic, given that Britain is a monarchy. Furthermore, the red-saltire representing Ireland never appeared in a British/English flag until the 1800 Act of Union incorporating Ireland into the British state and abolishing the Irish Parliament. Therefore, I propose the Cromwellian Commonwealth flag below (1653-58) as an alternative for a British republican state flag:

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For the British Republican Naval Flag, I propose this flag sourced from "Flags at Sea" (1986):

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This has been discussed. Please read the appropriate post as I clearly have explained my reasons for using the Union Flag. It will not be changed.

[ACMilan88]

Hello. I think the westphalian flag need a serious remake. The flag where created in 19th century witch explains it. I noticed that some guys from the RON-team had created a mod with german flags and reskin and his westphlian flag is much more suitable. Would be great to see it in a future update.

Historically Accurate German faction flags and uniforms:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=249420

[Finrod]

I've discovered that the US republic flag isnt very clear, i'll post a proposal here based on your new naval flag (wich is very good for my opinion).

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[Dr. Croccer]

Might I ask why there are flags for factions that don't exist, like Khiva and Mecklenburg?

[liambane]

any chanches to have theese flag "waves" like the vanilla ones?

[JFC]

Might I ask why there are flags for factions that don't exist, like Khiva and Mecklenburg?

Emergent factions. Khiva is actually present in my current game.

any chanches to have theese flag "waves" like the vanilla ones?

No chance.

[Los San Patricios]

This has been discussed. Please read the appropriate post as I clearly have explained my reasons for using the Union Flag. It will not be changed.

If you want to change the flag back to the commonwealth, that is entirely up to you, however, I won't be on this mod, as I just hate it. There were never two scotlands and englands for a start, but I appreciate the feedback.

The flag currently used is the 'Union Flag' which is far more fitting for a republic, I feel, as it represents Great Britian as a whole.

It's your mod, so I understand you won't change it if you hate the flag.

But the whole 'there aren't 'two Englands and two Scotlands' argument is a bit stupid, since the Commonwealth Flag is used in history and back then there weren't two Englands and two Scotlands either.

I personally don't see how a Union Flag is more fitting for a republic, but again it's your choice.

And as you said I did try to edit the flag myself, but it caused the black flag bug. At least I think it was my edit that caused it, it could be your mod in general. I mean the bug where flags that aren't square, like the Ottoman Flag, have the 'transparent' parts of the flag in black in stead of it actually being transparent. Other flag mods don't have this problem so it must be a bug right? I just downloaded version 1.7 of your mod so I don't know if it's been fixed.

[JFC]

It's your mod, so I understand you won't change it if you hate the flag.

But the whole 'there aren't 'two Englands and two Scotlands' argument is a bit stupid, since the Commonwealth Flag is used in history and back then there weren't two Englands and two Scotlands either.

I personally don't see how a Union Flag is more fitting for a republic, but again it's your choice.

And as you said I did try to edit the flag myself, but it caused the black flag bug. At least I think it was my edit that caused it, it could be your mod in general. I mean the bug where flags that aren't square, like the Ottoman Flag, have the 'transparent' parts of the flag in black in stead of it actually being transparent. Other flag mods don't have this problem so it must be a bug right? I just downloaded version 1.7 of your mod so I don't know if it's been fixed.

Few problems with this.
1: This was never an argument. It was a statement of fact. I don't like the Commonwealth flag and stated my reasons; so even though you feel it's 'a bit stupid', which frankly, I won't lose sleep over as you are right; it's my choice.
2: I don't want to get into the semantics over why Union Flag is less fitting for a republic... again, suffice to say a united country, for the people, deserved a 'united' flag, therefore imo it fits perfectly.
3: Bugs. Please provide me with a list of these flag mods with the non-rectangle flags that do work, so I can attempt to work around the issue. Here's why it doesn't in ETF... Again:

[Los San Patricios]

Spanky's old mod had it working. I don't know if it also worked with the 'damaged' version, but it worked for settlements and undamaged unit flags. The bug I had with the edited version of your mod had it even for undamaged flags, though I forgot to check if it's still bugged in 2.8.

And the bug with wind direction arrow at the compass in naval battles has nothing to do with this mod right?

[JFC]

Spanky's old mod had it working. I don't know if it also worked with the 'damaged' version, but it worked for settlements and undamaged unit flags. The bug I had with the edited version of your mod had it even for undamaged flags, though I forgot to check if it's still bugged in 2.8.

And the bug with wind direction arrow at the compass in naval battles has nothing to do with this mod right?

Arrow issue is not due to this mod.

The Spanky version has an identical file structure to ETF as it only replaces the flag textures. The issue of the damaged flags not looking right is the same in that mod. This mod actually started by using Spanky's mod and those very same flags.

[liambane]

I suggest you to remake all the flag that you leave from vanilla, also if you remake the same flag:

Having some flag waves and others not waving is a bit strange...

Making ALL THE FLAGS non waving should be better since it's impossible to let the new ones waves.

This choice will let this mod be more "complete" and will hide the vanilla track left by flags unchanged.