A glitch or working as intended?

**Daria** · January 13, 2010, 04:04 PM

I've been playing the mod, and so far I've been having a blast, but I'm seeing something very strange. Many times when I lay siege to a town or castle with a small garrison its grows massively. Like from 3 units to a fullstack as soon as your lay siege. What I'm wondering is that is this a intended effect (The people rising to protect their city) or is it a glitch?

**Userpro** · January 13, 2010, 04:25 PM

It's a intended effect which is called "Garrison script". Its for important cities only and if you don't like it, you can download somewhere here a NO-garrison-script file, which eliminate this effect.

**Userpro** · January 13, 2010, 04:29 PM

Here it is for version 4.2. Look at the bottom of post #1 there .....

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=170021

EDIT: No garrison script for 4.2 added Just place in mods\kingdoms_grand_campaign_mod\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign folder.

**The Holy Pilgrim** · January 13, 2010, 04:47 PM

Yeah, the garrison script is a real bugger if you're not used to it.

**chris7ian** · January 13, 2010, 07:01 PM

you can always get crafty and sit outside the walls and let them come out and fight. Will only be the force you can see and if you kill them all you can enter the castle without a fight. Also if they have one little stack outside, attack them and the castle/town will come to their aid and then defeat them and you can enter castle/town normally without a fight. Or only attack towns/castles with two stacks minimum.

**The Holy Pilgrim** · January 13, 2010, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by chris7ian

you can always get crafty and sit outside the walls and let them come out and fight. Will only be the force you can see and if they kill all of your army, they can destroy your peasants without a fight. Also if they have one little stack outside, attack them and the castle/town will come to their aid and then they will destroy you and they can run rampant without a fight. Or only attack towns/castles with five stacks minimum.

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**chris7ian** · January 13, 2010, 09:09 PM

**Soul Firez** · January 14, 2010, 09:36 AM

`Hmm with people exploiting the Ai like that sounds like i need to modify the garrison script

i know if there is a battle within 2squares which is about 1 cm from a city /castle with a garrision that the same amount of men in that garrision script spawn into the battle field

Hmm not a bad idea actually and will eliminate garrision dodging completely

pretty easy script to write to

**Frunk** · January 14, 2010, 11:01 AM

I support that completely, Soul! I can't stand it when I even do that exploit by accident. Makes things way too simple.

**The Holy Pilgrim** · January 14, 2010, 03:57 PM

Is there a way for a city to have infinite garrison scripts (ex everytime you attack, the city recieves the garrsion script)

**Frunk** · January 14, 2010, 10:40 PM

You'd just have to reduce the time limit from 10 to 0 I'd guess, but that I would not like.

**Soul Firez** · January 14, 2010, 10:55 PM

Yeah just remove the counter for sieges totally out and remove from the script the condition of sieges counter beingl ess than 0. But i dont think that would make for a good game yes the garrison is to make the game harder but my goodness the world would descend to war complete due to the Ai constantly tripping each others garrison and spawning that many men the AI would send all it had at the weakest faction (most likely the player seeing you be the only one without that many men

I wouldnt want to implement that as well i have already added extras for the Ai to bring more men by 1 hording (think of it as a last ditch free moving garrison script LOL) and re emerging factions though i have thought of the idea of slightly lessening the men spawned by the garrison but increasing the number of settlements that have one

I have started work on the no dodging the garrision script it so far works i have even included the counter so your not facing the same men again when and if you actually siege the city castle

**Userpro** · January 14, 2010, 11:24 PM

... infinite garrison scripts (ex everytime you attack, the city recieves the garrsion script)

If you really want to see the CAi totaly messing up, coz of losing any remaining reasonable finance-managment-ability (therefore recruit,build and movment managment, too), then this it is for sure the best way to go!