Sarah Palin's campaign insiders stab her in the back

**Heinz Guderian** · January 12, 2010, 08:09 AM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6984739.ece

Some juicy bits:

"The index cards were piling up by the hundreds, but Palin wasn't absorbing the material written on them. When her aides tried to quiz her, she would routinely shut down – chin on her chest, arms folded, eyes cast to the floor, speechless and motionless, lost in what those around her described as a kind of catatonic stupor."

One of her advisers sent an urgent SOS to McCain headquarters, the authors continue. "They began discussing a new and threatening possibility: that Palin was mentally unstable."

"She continued to stumble over an unavoidable element: her rival's name. Over and over, Palin referred to Obama's running mate as 'Senator Obiden' – or was it 'O'Biden'? – and the corrections weren't sticking." In the event, Mrs Palin famously strode on stage, stuck her hand out and said: "Hey, can I call you Joe?"
Today it emerged that she is to take her conservative message to Fox News as a regular commentator. The US cable channel said that she would offer political commentary and analysis on its TV programming, its website, radio network and business cable channel.
Mrs Palin said in a statement posted on the network's website: "It's wonderful to be part of a place that so values fair and balanced news."

There is also a bit in the article where even McCain's men are wondering what would happen if McCain won and she was in power.

The world came close that day in November 2008. Like the Able Archer incident in 1983 and the Cuban Missile Crisis. I want to say a heartfelt thank you to all those that voted for Obama.

**~~sabaku_no_gaara~~** · January 12, 2010, 08:24 AM

Can't we just forget about Palin and get on with our daily buisness?

Seriously, she's a misguided person who was thrown in to gain votes with her hockey mom image and it failed miserably.

**rez** · January 12, 2010, 08:56 AM

Its terrifying and hilarious that she's now a part of FOX. I'm really looking forward to her 'commentary.'

I don't want to meet the person thats genuinely attracted to her though...

**motiv-8** · January 12, 2010, 11:33 AM

I don't want to meet the person thats genuinely attracted to her though...

Based on the experience of the Internets (DISCLAIMER, DISCLAIMER) they are regularly the same type who say "I like the one who has a birth certificate!"

**Nietzsche** · January 12, 2010, 11:38 AM

I find it interesting that not a single person is questioning why the media is going to such great lengths to assassinate her character.

So what if she didn't want to memorize cue cards. Who really gives a damn if she made jokes about splicing Obama and Biden's names together.

What I find far more interesting, is why the lefty's are so rabidly attacking her. Perhaps because it violates some hard held position that women are supposed to be democrats and anyone that isn't is obviously a complete idiot? Were this Hillary being attacked, CNN & MSNBC would be circling the wagons. It's a

double-standard. The same that gives Reid a free pass for "discouraging remarks" and crucifies a Republican for saying anything the same.

**motiv-8** · January 12, 2010, 11:42 AM

What I find far more interesting, is why the lefty's are so rabidly attacking her. Perhaps because it violates some hard held position that women are supposed to be democrats and anyone that isn't is obviously a complete idiot?

Yep, that's it. It has absolutely nothing to do with a complete twit being elevated to such a potentially high position.

Were this Hillary being attacked, CNN & MSNBC would be circling the wagons. It's a

double-standard.

Given that Hillary is an actually intelligent, articulate, and vastly more experienced person, I don't see how it's a double-standard per se. What pisses me off is how nobody called her out on being a total sell-out.

**Nietzsche** · January 12, 2010, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by motiv-8

Yep, that's it. It has absolutely nothing to do with a complete twit being elevated to such a potentially high position.

Given that Hillary is an actually intelligent, articulate, and vastly more experienced person, I don't see how it's a double-standard per se. What pisses me off is how nobody called her out on being a total sell-out.

Opinions. Both. I don't find Hillary articulate or intelligent. I think she's nothing more than a pandering unprincipled powermongering slut.

The facts are the media are still attack dogging a woman that has pretty much been a non-factor since the election was lost last November. It's a deliberate smear against a woman who is popular with a grass roots movement (T-partyers) who are also smeared in the media using the very same language you have just used. It's elitist cosmopolitan snobbery that will go to any length to destroy an obviously threatening movement. I think they do so at their peril. What the T-partyers may lack in sophistication they make for in principle: smaller government, out of our lives. That, I believe is the true reason she (Palin) and they (T-partyers) are so hated.

**motiv-8** · January 12, 2010, 01:20 PM

Opinions. Both. I don't find Hillary articulate or intelligent. I think she's nothing more than a pandering unprincipled powermongering slut.

That's so damn funny that I don't even care about arguing.

**Nietzsche** · January 12, 2010, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by motiv-8

That's so damn funny that I don't even care about arguing.

Opinions generally aren't worth arguing. It's the reason I didn't argue from an opinion in the first place.

**motiv-8** · January 12, 2010, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

It's the reason I didn't argue from an opinion in the first place.

"Perhaps because it violates some hard held position that women are supposed to be democrats and anyone that isn't is obviously a complete idiot?"

**Nietzsche** · January 12, 2010, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by motiv-8

"Perhaps because it violates some hard held position that women are supposed to be democrats and anyone that isn't is obviously a complete idiot?"

Not an opinion. The liberals have for some time had the majority of women voting democrat. I can be accused of generalization, not opinion. Have a great day sir.

**Phier** · January 12, 2010, 02:07 PM

Just what has Obama's "superior" intellect done for us so far?

**motiv-8** · January 12, 2010, 02:06 PM

Actually, you did posit opinion because that statement was used as a descriptive to explain the held idea that "leftys are so rabidly attacking her" and voting rolls don't do much to prove the notion that "anyone that isn't is obviously a complete idiot."

Have a great day sir.

You as well sir.

**Nietzsche** · January 12, 2010, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by motiv-8

Actually, you did posit opinion because that statement was used as a descriptive to explain the held idea that "leftys are so rabidly attacking her" and voting rolls don't do much to prove the notion that "anyone that isn't is obviously a complete idiot."

You as well sir.

Apologies, I didn't realize CNN, MSNBC, et al, were objective publications. My fault. Her intelligence, demeanor, hell, everything about her character has been subject of media assassination since the election has concluded. I'll ask you the same question. Why? What possible relevance could it have other than attacking a strong populist candidate who obviously draws considerable influence from numerous conservative minimalist government grass roots movements.

It's nothing more than fear.

It reminds me of how the media treated Jeane Kirkpatrick. Or hell, the way it remembers Margaret Thatcher. Hillary is an icon despite her corruption and misuse of power. Women of a conservative political bent are gibbering madmen. Or, worse, as in this case, their very state of mind is subject to some kind of armchair psychobabble.

Incidentally, we must not live in the same worlds. Historic voting patterns of women have large influence on the portrayal of women by the media. But I suppose we can just ignore that and continue bickering. It's already obvious that you don't like Palin based on the elitist assumption that she's unintelligent. Implying that Hillary and clowns are. I don't think any of them really have the market cornered on brains. But at least I know what Palin stands for, with Hillary it changes with the polls.

**Heinz Guderian** · January 12, 2010, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

It reminds me of how the media treated Jeane Kirkpatrick. Or hell, the way it remembers Margaret Thatcher. .

Margaret Thatcher is remembered pretty well here in Britain. Yes she may have ****ed up manufacturing and made the Unions angry, but she was one of the strongest most intelligent Prime Ministers we've had since the War.

Edit: WTF happened to my poll? It says the thread starter can see but i cant see jack ****

**motiv-8** · January 12, 2010, 05:57 PM

It's nothing more than fear.

LOL.. well, I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly don't fear the woman.

Women of a conservative political bent are gibbering madmen. Or, worse, as in this case, their very state of mind is subject to some kind of armchair psychobabble.

I'm wondering why you're acting as if all the observations about Palin's short-comings are made up. .... They aren't. They're out there for anybody to see, and I linked one. What's even more staggering is that in doing so I'm suddenly "elitist." Excuse me for not wanting to see a blithering idiot come anywhere close to influencing ANYTHING in this country. The logic contained in such accusations is akin to saying I'm racist if I say that Obama is not qualified for President.

**Farnan** · January 12, 2010, 08:39 PM

Oh I fear that woman in power. That would be scary...

I don't want to think about it. I'd almost rather want Ron Paul, at least he has a brain.

I went to a Palin rally once because of reasons that have nothing to do with her or politics, and yea I felt I almost lost IQ.

**Søren** · January 12, 2010, 11:32 AM

Ok guys, try and keep this political - let's not have long discussions about whether you want to have sex with her or not. (A resounding no, of course....) Had to clean away a few posts.