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    Default OK its the Daily Mail but...eh?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-t-write.html

    Businessman is arrested in front
    of wife and son... for ‘anti-gipsy’
    email that he didn’t even write



    By James Millbank
    Last updated at 10:04 AM on 10th January 2010




    Paul Osmond who made a comment about a gipsy planning application

    A wealthy businessman was arrested at home in front of his wife and young son over an email which council officials deemed ‘offensive’ to gipsies – but which he had not even written.
    The email, concerning a planning appeal by a gipsy, included the phrase: ‘It’s the 'do as you likey' attitude that I am against.’

    Council staff believed the email was offensive because ‘likey’ rhymes with the derogatory term ‘pikey’.

    More to the story at the link.....

    Now its the Daily Mail, but, eh? Could one of our local brits explain this one?
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

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    Default Re: OK its the Daily Mail but...eh?

    What would like you like to know?




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    He doesn't look like a wealthy businessman...
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    Default Re: OK its the Daily Mail but...eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    He doesn't look like a wealthy businessman...
    He does to Daily Mail readers and thats what counts.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    He doesn't look like a wealthy businessman...
    Appearances can be deceptive. I used to live in a very wealthy area in Sydney, and you'd see some guy walk into the bottle'o wearing a ripped t-shirt, shorts and sandals and say 'Just a 6 pack a carlton cold please' he'd then walk out into the street, get into a convertible ferrari and drive off. Another time when I was in the states, I was waiting for an interview with a bank manager, and he was already seeing another guy who looked like any surfer who was listing his assets. 5 million property here, 10 million property there, block of apartments here, factory there...so you just never know.

    I am not surprised by this event though. I remember a school boy being arrested and charged in the UK for calling one of his mates a and Bin Laden in a schoolyard fight.

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    Default Re: OK its the Daily Mail but...eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-t-write.html

    Businessman is arrested in front
    of wife and son... for ‘anti-gipsy’
    email that he didn’t even write



    By James Millbank
    Last updated at 10:04 AM on 10th January 2010




    Paul Osmond who made a comment about a gipsy planning application

    A wealthy businessman was arrested at home in front of his wife and young son over an email which council officials deemed ‘offensive’ to gipsies – but which he had not even written.
    The email, concerning a planning appeal by a gipsy, included the phrase: ‘It’s the 'do as you likey' attitude that I am against.’

    Council staff believed the email was offensive because ‘likey’ rhymes with the derogatory term ‘pikey’.

    More to the story at the link.....

    Now its the Daily Mail, but, eh? Could one of our local brits explain this one?
    if the daily mail hasn't spun the story out of recognition (which they may have) then it's a stupid decision by a jobs worth idiot.

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    I'm guessing there was probably...more to it. Flamming Daily Mail. I suppose yyou could call dealing drugs a kind of business.
    Last edited by Helm; January 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM.

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    Default Re: OK its the Daily Mail but...eh?

    Telegraph has the same story but thats it.

    But are racist comments illegal in the UK?
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Telegraph has the same story but thats it.

    But are racist comments illegal in the UK?

    not supposed to be however inciting racial or religous hatred is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    not supposed to be however inciting racial or religous hatred is.
    So as long as you talk to yourself they are legal?
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    So as long as you talk to yourself they are legal?

    not that extreme, it is supposed to be you can say bad things, (n word etc) but you can't say 'kill all the n's'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    So as long as you talk to yourself they are legal?
    Let's put it this way, you can say the N word how much you like, but you can't stand on a platform on a busy square, advocating the massacre of all brownies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Let's put it this way, you can say the N word how much you like, but you can't stand on a platform on a busy square, advocating the massacre of all brownies.
    I'm going to guess that the application is obviously not that narrow being in this case the offending line was he didn't like their attitude.
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    But are racist comments illegal in the UK?
    No, but we (the left-wing liberal Guardian readers who used to be the establishment before all the business around 2001 happened) don't like them, and actually acting on racist beliefs is illegal.

    Somebody can say that they don't think black people should live near whites and get away with it, but if they are selling their house and they actually refuse to sell it to a black person for this reason then this is a crime. It is also a hate crime if somebody shouts it as abuse.
    "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fishman View Post
    No, but we (the left-wing liberal Guardian readers who used to be the establishment before all the business around 2001 happened) don't like them, and actually acting on racist beliefs is illegal.

    Somebody can say that they don't think black people should live near whites and get away with it, but if they are selling their house and they actually refuse to sell it to a black person for this reason then this is a crime. It is also a hate crime if somebody shouts it as abuse.
    So why the arrest?
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    Default Re: OK its the Daily Mail but...eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    So why the arrest?
    We'll probably never know. These sort of stories pop-up daily in the tabloids but they're unlikely to be reported by the serious news outlets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    We'll probably never know. These sort of stories pop-up daily in the tabloids but they're unlikely to be reported by the serious news outlets.
    The telegraph as the highest circulation in England, 3* that of the Guardian, and the story is there. Since basically all UK journalism is divided on political lines and constantly accused of being biased, which would be the serious ones? Even the BBC has fallen somewhat into the morass.
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    So why the arrest?
    It's comparatively easy to get an arrest for something like this as opposed to a conviction. I'll be impressed if they even get an indictment(or whatever the equivalent is in UK).
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    Default Re: OK its the Daily Mail but...eh?

    Thats not actually the businessman in question in the photo, thats his employee that sent the email.

    It seems though that the council did infact contact the police over what they deemed 'an offensive comment', then dozy plod went to the wrong mans house. (No surprise there)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6959...ven-write.html

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