may charge without orders?

[tium]

What does the "may charge without orders" unit trait means? I kind of got it in my favorite unit, but it doesn't appear to affect anything.

[k/t]

I heard that the unit may attack without you telling it to when the enemy is close by. I don't think I've ever seen it happen.

[MortenJessen]

What does the "may charge without orders" unit trait means? I kind of got it in my favorite unit, but it doesn't appear to affect anything.

Hi there.
It means that a unit may charge at an enemy unit if it is with in "range" of it. I do not how ever know how this range is meassured. But I do know, that it can have quite an impact on your remaining formation if such unit suddenly "leaves it" to attack something. It may not be significant with infantry, but when it comes to cavalry, it can have quite an effect on the remaining battle (Because cavalry is both way faster and more likely to have that trait, not because it is cavalry, but because of the likelyhood of things beyond your control happening, such as an enemy exploiting the weakness, and so on). If lets say, a cavalry unit suddenly charges, and gets defeated, its rout can cass mass dismay in your remaining army.
Y.S.
M. Jessen

[Old_Scratch]

I've never seen this actually happen before. Low discipline units seem to follow orders and react just the same as high discipline units.

[Scelesticfish]

I've never seen this actually happen before. Low discipline units seem to follow orders and react just the same as high discipline units.

I've never seen it either.

[Valandur]

Its happened to my cavalry before.
Once in a siege they were ramming the gates under fire from my archers and as soon as they broke the gates I was planning to ride out and trample them with my Cavalry. Instead, my cavalry charged out without me ordering them, the gates opened and the enemy swarmed in, cutting off my cavalry to be massacred by Spearman. I plugged the breach with spearmen and one good thing my cav did do was kill the enemies pushing the ram so they had no way to get inside the city except with their siege towers and ladders who were being decimated. But then my SPEARMAN sallied forth without me ordering them and they refused to retreat.

I thought the computer was taking over my army! But it has happened to me before and I'm hoping it doesn't happen again.

[John Doe]

I saw it happened with the teutonic heavy cav (IIRC, the cav I always get from the guild at frankfurt when playing HRE)), I ordered then to charge a unit on the right flank of the enemy, but on the way they "switched" to another nearby in the center. It's quite rare though.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

"charge without orders" was an attribute of barbaric units in RTW. In that game units would really charge without orders. Even pikemen and hoplites would sometimes leave their position and charge. In M2TW I have never seen an unit do this.

[Wotal Tar]

I have seen it happen before and it can mess up your micro management quite a bit; especially when your cav unit decides to turn and charge at spearmen instead of the archers you were aiming for.

[VersionLangley]

um ^^... i don't think that "order" is the order you shout out or given out but rather the arrangement of the troops. In other word how neatly your troops charge. example: only the 1st ranks of the unit charge while the rest stay behind. Happen quite often with impetuous units

Units charge without order reduce the morale check done on the enemy

[Dave Strider]

um ^^... i don't think that "order" is the order you shout out or given out but rather the arrangement of the troops. In other word how neatly your troops charge. example: only the 1st ranks of the unit charge while the rest stay behind. Happen quite often with impetuous units

Units charge without order reduce the morale check done on the enemy

OH ! THAT EXPLAINS IT!

I've had that happen with Iberian Infantry in RTW AND Armoured Sergeants in M2TW! That sucks, I thought it was because of Guard mode....They did that when it was off. But thanks for the explanation.

[removeduser_9283432323]

I've never seen this happen, and was gonna start a thread about it, i'm glad i searched first

[Rean]

um ^^... i don't think that "order" is the order you shout out or given out but rather the arrangement of the troops. In other word how neatly your troops charge. example: only the 1st ranks of the unit charge while the rest stay behind. Happen quite often with impetuous units

Units charge without order reduce the morale check done on the enemy

In my opinion you are mistaken, because its not " may charge without order" but " may charge without orders" and the meaning of this is different. But i may be mistaken, since english is not my first language.

[Delta21]

It happens to me all the time...if you do not constantly micro your units and give them orders they will attack whomever they please. E.g.: I order a cavalry unit with this stat to charge a bunch of archers guarded on their left flank by some spear units...but they are half of map away....if I don't give my cavalry further orders they will be very likely NOT to attack the archers, instead going for someone else...this happens to infantry as well.
The fact that only the front lines of infantry attack in a charge has to do with the sudden change from "Standing" to "Charging"(which is a bit faster than running). More disciplined units will be more efficient in their charge, thus this will not happen.
You can prevent low discipline units from doing this by: Walking towards the enemy units=> Running towards enemy unit(a while before the charge, so they will all be on the move once they get into the charge "range")...and that should fix it.

[killervomit2]

What does the "may charge without orders" unit trait means? I kind of got it in my favorite unit, but it doesn't appear to affect anything.

this trait seems to be bugged as it only happens when an enemy routs and u can fix it by putting them on guard mode