AI Diplomat Spam in Turns

[Maggy]

Before posting this i used search function and didnt find anything for that.
I always try to understand after 2 years playing MTW2 / DLV why "AI Diplomats" are bothering me in the turns .... but why is that ? and is it possible to turn it off because it increases my turn time alot.
Can anyone explain me that abit more ?

[Taiji]

Yeah I hate that too. It's a bug from m2tw, basically stupid AI diplomats initiate diplomacy and then decide they don't want to. It means they want something from you but they think they will be unhappy with the terms. If you can give them what they want they go away. Or you can kill them.

[Ba'alzamon]

Yeah I hate that too. It's a bug from m2tw, basically stupid AI diplomats initiate diplomacy and then decide they don't want to. It means they want something from you but they think they will be unhappy with the terms. If you can give them what they want they go away. Or you can kill them.

Lol "or you can kill them," always an option

[Furin]

There is one more solution to the suggested ones. You could edit the price for diplomats in the desc_cultures.txt to a higher one, more money for a diplomat means less diplomats moving around, although I think the AI has a high priority for making agent types, no matter what. My idea could backfire into the AI becomeing bankrupt.

I am still figuring out in what order the AI spends its money. I know that the AI will recruit mercs with a very high priority, then recruit units and finally spends money on buildings, with the weight here focused on upgrading the settlement. Where the agents come into place here I cannot tell.

Try making the diplomats worth 10k florins and see what happens

[Shadrach]

Does it work with turning off "follow AI turns"?

And does not your campaign map "blackout" script get rid of this problem Taiji?

[Taiji]

Nope the problem still stands no matter what. I thought about switching the animation but I think the problem is in diplomacy, the diplomat should ask for something rediculous if that's the only option he can think of. I think possibly a lot of stopped attempts are upon realising the AI or the player has nothing to bargain with. Don't really know how to affect that though.

[Beggar]

Actually, if the AI is "offering" something but you don't get the diplomacy screen they are trying to bribe. Very annoying nonetheless.

[Taiji]

Actually, if the AI is "offering" something but you don't get the diplomacy screen they are trying to bribe. Very annoying nonetheless.

This is for certain? ... This doesn't sound so hard to fix...

[HbHadast]

Annoying?

Well... If the diplomat is a princess, I have no problem being annoyed.

[Taiji]

I tried:

<max_bribe_chance float="100.0"/>
<min_bribe_chance float="100.0"/>
<bribe_chance_modifier float="0.01"/>

In descr_campaign_db.xml and the french came to 'bribe' my settlement anyway. Maybe there is a better way to test but my money is on the fact that they want trade with me is being thwarted by the fact they hate me. We're not at war and I'm sure they want trade, but I can't afford want they want me to pay them for trade and they know it. Because we have bad relations they cannot just let me have trade for nothing.... but they want trade... it looks like something is not properly tuned with something else, if you know what I mean

[Furin]

Anyone knows what the 1, 1 does at the end of this line in cultures? Could it be 1 diplo/turn starting with 1 like in the edb? Then one solution could be to make diplos replenish every 40 turns and kill the ones that hassle you. Would also be cool to keep wars going, don't want your enemies to make peace? Kill their diplos and this time it really means something... (the 250 is the cost)

example code:
diplomat diplomat.tga diplomat_info.tga diplomat.tga 250 1 1

Speaking of diplomats, I once tried to add the marry parameter to them, just like with princesses, would have been the first medieval gay marriage, and the first in the world with offspring. Didn't work though

[Kjertesvein]

Diplomats touching your settlement is just like Mr Death comming to you...


After a few turns, they will turn up for war with a couple of stacks Good luck

-Wille

[Ba'alzamon]

Hahahaha good video

[El Indio]

Aside from altering the animation sequence (which may not be possible) the other way to reduce the annoyance factor is to reduce the number of diplomats themselves. This can be done by adding the "agent_limit diplomat 1" line into the relevant "building city_hall" tree found within the export_descr_building file.

It restricts the number of diplomats to the number of legal buildings that the AI or yourself have built.

[Taiji]

That is a good idea

Anyone knows what the 1, 1 does at the end of this line in cultures? Could it be 1 diplo/turn starting with 1 like in the edb? Then one solution could be to make diplos replenish every 40 turns and kill the ones that hassle you. Would also be cool to keep wars going, don't want your enemies to make peace? Kill their diplos and this time it really means something... (the 250 is the cost)

example code:
diplomat diplomat.tga diplomat_info.tga diplomat.tga 250 1 1

Speaking of diplomats, I once tried to add the marry parameter to them, just like with princesses, would have been the first medieval gay marriage, and the first in the world with offspring. Didn't work though

I wish I knew But your guess sounds totally correct to me

It's a shame about the gay dynasty upset, could have ensured a diplomat for every son

[aiueo]

Interesting ideas