New Rhun swordsmen?

[Shiftehh]

Hi there, loving the mod!

My fav faction is Rhun, I really love the Dragon-regiments. Their skins are the best I've ever seen!
The Pikemen can use their swords if you enable it in the descr_unit file, but then their pikewall doesn't work properly, if the enemy gets close they switch to their swords.

I'd like to make a new unit, a medium swordsmen unit for the dragon regiments using the skin and model of these pikemen. How can I use the secondary model of this unit so that the new unit looks exactly the same, but with sword and shield (like the pikemen when they switch)

Thanks alot! Maybe an idea for Rhun in the future eh?

[Smaug]

you can use the pikemen as swordsmen by pressing alt when attacking I think.

[Seleukos_I.]

Yes but then they are ineffective.

[Shiftehh]

Yeh I know, that's why I want them as a seperate unit, so I can have a sword-unit and a pike-unit. But if I create a new unit using that same model, they are indeed swordmen but they still start out with shields on their back and pikes in their hand, when they charge they switch.

But I'm trying to locate that secondary model so they start out with sword and shield.. But I don't know how!

[Jean=A=Luc]

You already have a a "sword unit". Only it doesn't use a sword but a mace.

[BlackViper]

You already have a a "sword unit". Only it doesn't use a sword but a mace.

Correct me if I'm wrong but then your not a sword unit

Can't you just simply copy the unit and delete the first weapon? I only edited RTW when I still played that

[Jean=A=Luc]

When people say sword unit in this context what they mean is "medium/heavy line infantry with a shield and one handed weapon". Since Rhun already has such a unit among it Loke Regiments, another Loke unit of the same type is redundant regardless of whether it uses a sword, axe or hammer.

Of course one can say "but I want swords, swords are cool" but that's a whole different story.

[FOR GONDOR]

When people say sword unit in this context what they mean is "medium/heavy line infantry with a shield and one handed weapon". Since Rhun already has such a unit among it Loke Regiments, another Loke unit of the same type is redundant regardless of whether it uses a sword, axe or hammer.

Of course one can say "but I want swords, swords are cool" but that's a whole different story.

orrrrrr we mean sword as in "the double or one sided slashing and stabing weapon that is probably the all time favorite medieval weapon in my opinion)

[Deedlit]

pikemen have swords but they dont use them.. fix please.

[Lordinquisitor]

Trust me; If you want them to be effective pikemen you don`t want them to be able to use their swords.

[Xelathur]

Trust me; If you want them to be effective pikemen you don`t want them to be able to use their swords.

Maybe you could have a special ability to switch to swords instead, however, where are the pikes going to be tugged away?

When the enemy penetrate the pikemen's line the pikes ain't that good.

[Seleukos_I.]

They are completely ineffective when they fight with swords.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

When the enemy penetrate the pikemen's line the pikes ain't that good.

Always keep a unit or two in reserve behind your pikes to deal with breeches and give support.

[Xelathur]

Always keep a unit or two in reserve behind your pikes to deal with breeches and give support.

Thnx, will replan my battlestrat accordingly.

[FOR GONDOR]

i think you guys hav it mixed up its the archers that when u hold alt they become swordsmen and i agree maybe they should have a dragon skin sword unit

[OSDEA7]

Always keep a unit or two in reserve behind your pikes to deal with breeches and give support.

When i set up a defensive line with pikes or spear i place the sword units right inside with them.If any penetration happens even past the first row spearmen or pikes they have to deal with the swords.It works great.

[Æsir]

Mod workshop is here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=272
I belive Jean is on good mood today if hesn't closing this thread..

[Outlawstar15a2]

Like JAL said pikemen have sword. All you have to do is disable shield wall special ability and hold ALT while clicking on target.

But only a ing idiot would want a pikeman to use his secondary sword and get slaughtered, when he can use a true dedicated short range melee expert to do said job. Pikemen are most effective using their pikes. It's their namesake, it's the focus of much of their training, hence they should use pikes.

For s sakes if a gold plate wearing unit with a sword is that important to you go into the EDU and change the Loke Pikemens primary weapon from pike to sword and remove their shield wall ability... Holy crap dude...

[Shiftehh]

chill out man.. Read the thread! I don't want THEM to use swords.. I want a NEW unit to use swords..

[Muffer Nl]

Then go to the files to do so and double the entries with one of them having a new name. Disable the pike and voila.