United Nations! Kashmir Seeks Justice

[Poet]

Self-determination day January 5th, 2009

We haven't given up. A promise was made to the people of Kashmir on January 5, 1949.

THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN

Having received from the Governments of India and Pakistan in Communications, dated December 23 and December 25, 1948, respectively their acceptance of the following principles which are supplementary to the Commission's Resolution of August 13, 1948;

1. The question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite;

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Be a member of Pro-Kashmiri Plebiscite Group be with justice, be with People of Kashmir. You can read whole case of Kashmir there.

U.N. ! if you are truly to maintain justice in the world why East Timor is freed just after few years of rising of the conflict and Palestine and Kashmir are waiting for more than 60 years.

[Stavroforos]

More of a Political Academy threat, isn't it?

I'd support it but I don't care, sorry.

[Poet]

thanks, but i would like it to be in political mudpit as it is not only a theory but manly the day i am talking about so mudpit.

[Tiberios]

I support this a plebiscite in Kashmir.

Wihtout knowing much about the conflict, hasn't it dragged along for so long because either India or Pakistan has continously blocked any solution to the conflict which could result in something they do not fancy.

[Dr Zoidberg]

@Poet: If a plebiscite goes ahead, will Pakistan accept a result that sees Kashmir choose to become part of India, or better yet, choose independence?

[Poet]

@Poet: If a plebiscite goes ahead, will Pakistan accept a result that sees Kashmir choose to become part of India, or better yet, choose independence?

Let me tell you if there would ever be a plebiscite that would be a formal one, why? because on many occasions like the self determination day in huge processions in all Kashmir people raise pakistani flags and in fact that is only indian part of Kshmir which is occupied because on our side there is no graveyard of martyrs (shown in picture in first post) , no torture cells no rape etc. So i know and India also knows that a plebiscite would definitely cut Kashmir of Indian map, so we do not have problem with Plebiscite, as far as second question is concerned according to the rule of Partition of Sub-Continent all states were to be a part of either us or them on base of majority of one religious group in a state so independent Kashmir can be Indian choice (although not yet) because India kept occupying that for 60 years but not of Pakistan, secondly An independent Kashmir surrounded by three nuclear powers would not be a real free one especially when a far located Power wants a piece of land in the region to have eye on every thing. But to make you satisfied about our intentions, ok let it be choice also i am 100 % sure they would chose Pakistan as they whenever have any chance to raise our flags on their homes they do so.It is India which is the only party of all 3 which is denying.

[Burnum]

@Poet: If a plebiscite goes ahead, will Pakistan accept a result that sees Kashmir choose to become part of India, or better yet, choose independence?

It's unlikely that they will vote to stay with India, that's why India refuses a plebiscite. It's a toss up between joining Pakistan or Independence, with Independence being the likely result.

ok let it be choice also i am 100 % sure they would chose Pakistan as they whenever have any chance to raise our flags on their homes they do so

The action of a few Pro-Pakistani militants doesn't necessarily mean the Kashmiri people are 100% behind Pakistan.

[Babur]

It's unlikely that they will vote to stay with India, that's why India refuses a plebiscite. It's a toss up between joining Pakistan or Independence, with Independence being the likely result.



The action of a few Pro-Pakistani militants doesn't necessarily mean the Kashmiri people are 100% behind Pakistan.

on top of that, Pakistan is hardly stable at the moment...

[Gromovnik]

Somehow I don't think that India will give up a large chunk of their territory.

[Poet]

It's unlikely that they will vote to stay with India, that's why India refuses a plebiscite. It's a toss up between joining Pakistan or Independence, with Independence being the likely result.



The action of a few Pro-Pakistani militants doesn't necessarily mean the Kashmiri people are 100% behind Pakistan.

You mean every time when in huge processions pakistani flag is raised militants do this? come one bro if i be over civilized it's just non sense.

Somehow I don't think that India will give up a large chunk of their territory.

That's exactly the matter, india is an unnatural country, not only Kashmirirs but many provinces are demanding freedom, if india lets kashmir go so would be many more parts.

on top of that, Pakistan is hardly stable at the moment...

Your honor Pakistan's stability has nothing to do with plebiscite, even when Pakistan was much stable than India , India was not ready to fulfill her promises what she made to get rid of war.

[Babur]

Your honor Pakistan's stability has nothing to do with plebiscite, even when Pakistan was much stable than India , India was not ready to fulfill her promises what she made to get rid of war.

of course it does, if Pakistan is unstable now, why would Kashmir want to join them?

[Poet]

Do you think you are so clever and Kashmiris are idiot, or you want to prove that you are the biggest well wisher of Kashmiris ? It is india behind terrorist activities in Pakistan so you want the status quo, you people would keep terrorist activities in pakistan and there would never be peace and Kashmir will be yours, but i believe that they would have much "peace" they have in occupied kashmir, i believe they have sense and can decide so let them decide.

[Babur]

Do you think you are so clever and Kashmiris are idiot, or you want to prove that you are the biggest well wisher of Kashmiris ?

nope,I am just not idealistic enough to believe that Kashmir's problems will just disappear overnight if they join Pakistan

It is india behind terrorist activities in Pakistan so you want the status quo, you people would keep terrorist activities in pakistan

which terrorist activities? the ISI funded the Taliban against the Indian,Chinese and Russian backed Northern Alliance after the Taliban.Only Pakistan and Saudi Arabia recognised the Taliban government when they took power in 1996 .ISI has also supported LeT and JeM.

and there would never be peace and Kashmir will be yours, but i believe that they would have much "peace" they have in occupied kashmir, i believe they have sense and can decide so let them decide.

"peace", those militants in Kashmir don't acquire weapons from thin air ,they have to come from somewhere

[Heinz Guderian]

Its not the first time India has stolen muslim lands. They invaded and annexed Hyderabad in 1948 and no one gave a shiz.

[Babur]

Its not the first time India has stolen muslim lands. They invaded and annexed Hyderabad in 1948 and no one gave a shiz.

had they acceded to Pakistan though, it would have been a similar situation to that of East Pakistan.

[Heinz Guderian]

had they acceded to Pakistan though, it would have been a similar situation to that of East Pakistan.

they wanted to be independent and live peacefully side by side their indian brothers. But would India listen? Would they ****, they rolled into the territory all jacked up on lassi furiuosly looking for land and gold.

And no one even complained. I say today these lies stop.

[Babur]

they wanted to be independent and live peacefully side by side their indian brothers. But would India listen? Would they ****, they rolled into the territory all jacked up on lassi furiuosly looking for land and gold.

lol, well the Nizam was indeed very wealthy.

And no one even complained. I say today these lies stop.

lol well 1948 was a pretty chaotic year

[uzi716]

had they acceded to Pakistan though, it would have been a similar situation to that of East Pakistan.

Well my family is from Hyderabad and let me tell you that most Muslims there speak Urdu unlike in Bangladesh where the main language is Bengali.

Also, a state of Hyderabad wouldn't of worked, its sandwiched between India. I support a Kashmiri plebiscite but not to join Pakistan. Pakistan is no where close to being stable, their government is corrupt and they are fighting a war in their own country. Right now the best thing would be to leave Kashmir the way it is right now because Kashmiris wan to be neither Pakistani nor Indian so its best not to rock the boat

[removeduser_052420]

Well my family is from Hyderabad and let me tell you that most Muslims there speak Urdu unlike in Bangladesh where the main language is Bengali.

Also, a state of Hyderabad wouldn't of worked, its sandwiched between India. I support a Kashmiri plebiscite but not to join Pakistan. Pakistan is no where close to being stable, their government is corrupt and they are fighting a war in their own country. Right now the best thing would be to leave Kashmir the way it is right now because Kashmiris wan to be neither Pakistani nor Indian so its best not to rock the boat

Why the hell should you care if Pakistan is stable? That's strange, even with all the "instability" in Pakistan, why are there still monthly riots in Kashmir filled with people clamoring for freedom from India's oppression? And lol your government is corrupt too, do you even live in India?

[uzi716]

Why the hell should you care if Pakistan is stable? That's strange, even with all the "instability" in Pakistan, why are there still monthly riots in Kashmir filled with people clamoring for freedom from India's oppression? And lol your government is corrupt too, do you even live in India?

Maybe if you read my post correctly I was trying to say why Kashmir would want to join India. What makes you think they even want to be part of Pakistan? Why would they want to join a nation that is corrupt and fighting a war with an enemy on its own front, most people wouldn't call that stable. I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to be part of a nation like that