Why not use the mercenaries to clear the Somali pirates?

[crazyorc]

Considering to bail a tanker costs the maritime company at least several million dollars and much higher insurance fee caused by the pirates, i believe it is more economical to hire the private mercenaries to clear the Somali pirates in the coastal areas.

Plus, the mercenaries are not restricted by the international war laws, so they shall be more cruel to the pirates and the ass of the pirates will be kicked more bitterly.

[Poet]

Black Water Mercenaries? with mission of illuminating muslims from world with crusader ideologies, what the is this, that they do not care international aw so send them in, what exactly they did in Iraq, they killed many muslims in their area of security brutally, do you want them to do so again? definitely yes because nothing is much tasty today more than muslims' blood.

[Pickle_mole]

Black Water Mercenaries? with mission of illuminating muslims from world with crusader ideologies, what the is this, that they do not care international aw so send them in, what exactly they did in Iraq, they killed many muslims in their area of security brutally, do you want them to do so again? definitely yes because nothing is much tasty today more than muslims' blood.

No company called blackwater exists, one use to but not anymore

[Watchman]

No company called blackwater exists, one use to but not anymore

Fair enough, but the name change is so recent - and pointless - people can be excused for not much caring or even knowing.

Quite a few of its divisions also still seem to use the old name, so yeah.

[Pickle_mole]

Fair enough, but the name change is so recent - and pointless - people can be excused for not much caring or even knowing.

Quite a few of its divisions also still seem to use the old name, so yeah.

well didnt you know that with a name change all previouse misdeeds are left behind, its a very common legal tactic. drink and drive? Murder? just change your name!

[boofhead]

Black Water Mercenaries? with mission of illuminating muslims from world with crusader ideologies, what the is this, that they do not care international aw so send them in, what exactly they did in Iraq, they killed many muslims in their area of security brutally, do you want them to do so again? definitely yes because nothing is much tasty today more than muslims' blood.

This isn't about muslims or ''crusaders'' FFS, it's about a bunch of piractical, lawless, violent bastards holding international maritime trade routes, as well as vessels and crews, to ransom.

[Sisko]

Black Water Mercenaries? with mission of illuminating muslims from world with crusader ideologies, what the is this, that they do not care international aw so send them in, what exactly they did in Iraq, they killed many muslims in their area of security brutally, do you want them to do so again? definitely yes because nothing is much tasty today more than muslims' blood.

Poet, where the hell was their any mention at all of ELIMINATING muslims from the world with "crusader ideologies" in the original post?? You're simply talking

The OP was simply stating mercaneries could be used to eliminate the PIRATES who cause these problems.

I for one think an 18th century approach would be alot more suitible. Attack the pirates wherever they may be found, destroy their bases of operations and pusue them with conviction, and make it clear that piracy will not be tolerated. But, only attack the PIRATES. leave the innocents alone.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Black Water Mercenaries? with mission of illuminating muslims from world with crusader ideologies, what the is this, that they do not care international aw so send them in, what exactly they did in Iraq, they killed many muslims in their area of security brutally, do you want them to do so again? definitely yes because nothing is much tasty today more than muslims' blood.

Pirates you mean. I don't care what religion they are the pirates deserve to be brought to justice and if you think that because the pirates are Muslim they deserve to be left alone you have a skewed sense of morality and justice. Unless you honestly think all the action being taken in the middle east is some attempt at genocide in which case it isn't even worth trying to rationalize your posts or point of view.

[Pious Agnost]

Not all mercenaries are Blackwater. Some firms are not that different from regular soldiers (According to our servicemen right here on TWC)

I support this idea

[Exarch]

not good
mercs who often come from spec forces outfits, hate guard duty

[s.rwitt]

Not if they are getting paid. Most of the mercenaries in Iraq were used to escort convoys and guard contractors.

[Watchman]

The OP is basically asking why someone doesn't shell out a positively gigantic pile of money to hire some bunch of lightly equipped goons to pacify one of the most thoroughly dysfunctional hellholes on the planet, and in effect try their hand at dealing with asymmetrical warfare and nation-building on the side.

Yeah, I wonder why.

Also I'm having some difficulties picturing a "private military contractor" outfit that would regard the gig as a sound career move.

[JP226]

I don't think we're talking about guard duty as much as pest control. And using any merc for that is ok by me.

[Yorkshireman]

Considering to bail a tanker costs the maritime company at least several million dollars and much higher insurance fee caused by the pirates, i believe it is more economical to hire the private mercenaries to clear the Somali pirates in the coastal areas.

Plus, the mercenaries are not restricted by the international war laws, so they shall be more cruel to the pirates and the ass of the pirates will be kicked more bitterly.

I remember reading something about Blackwater having their own ship. I found this article but its 2 years old now.

Blackwater joins fight against sea piracy.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...st-sea-piracy/

[Poet]

this would not be a good idea, to be successful they would not care of human shields behind which pirates would be hidden, i can fore see many civilian casualties, but who care civilian casualties as in Pakistan in drone attacks in whole last year 687 civilians including children and women were killed and only 14 alleged terrorists were killed.

[Captain Jin]

this would not be a good idea, to be successful they would not care of human shields behind which pirates would be hidden, i can fore see many civilian casualties, but who care civilian casualties as in Pakistan in drone attacks in whole last year 687 civilians including children and women were killed and only 14 alleged terrorists were killed.

Lol. You obviously don't have a good working knowledge of more professional PMCs that have operated successfully in Africa in the last twenty years.

The OP is basically asking why someone doesn't shell out a positively gigantic pile of money to hire some bunch of lightly equipped goons to pacify one of the most thoroughly dysfunctional hellholes on the planet, and in effect try their hand at dealing with asymmetrical warfare and nation-building on the side.

Yeah lightly equipped goons. That's hilarious even though most of them are former Special Forces and such. At least any of those from good companies. I'm so tired of this "OMGZ PMCs are evilz" cause some dumb asses from Blackwater did some stupid stuff. Most people that have such a haughty view of these contractors don't have any idea of what they're talking about. I guess you've never heard of Executive Outcomes, who ended the Angolan Civil War and forced UNITA to sue for peace but then after pressure from the UN and US the Angolan gov. cancelled their contract and UN peacekeepers replaced the EO troops. Unsurprisingly a few years later war sparked up again (gee I wonder why the UN couldn't keep the peace). Oh yeah you might have also heard of all that business going on in Sierra Leone and the Revolutionary United Front? Maybe yo usaw the inspired events in that movie Blood Diamond... Well in real life EO went in and beat down the RUF and restored order to the country, again rescuing a legitimate government and preventing bloodshed across the country. That's 2/2, oh but then we have the UN swoop in again and say "OMGz PMCs are evilz GTFO" so they did and were once again replaced by peacekeepers who once again failed to keep the peace as Sierra Leone once again went back to war. The idea that a professional organization couldn't make some headway with Somalian pirates is just stupid, they're much better than you give them credit for. Blackwater just isn't the company to do it.

@OP the reason why it doesn't happen is because while a PMC could go in and probably hammer out the Somalian militias and pirates as soon as they leave the problem will come back. There has to be a more long lasting solution for Somalia in order to rid ourselves of the whole piracy issue. So while I agree that the right PMC (perhaps Triple Canopy or Aegis) could go in there and probably smoke a lot of the bad guys and do it efficiently (and contrary to popular belief with limited collateral duty) it would only provide a temporary reprieve. Not to mention the UN it's pants over the idea of a profesional military force that could fight for 'the highest bidder' even though these companies generally only work for legitimate governments. But whatever.

[Jaketh]

this would not be a good idea, to be successful they would not care of human shields behind which pirates would be hidden, i can fore see many civilian casualties, but who care civilian casualties as in Pakistan in drone attacks in whole last year 687 civilians including children and women were killed and only 14 alleged terrorists were killed.

why does every muslim on this forum try and twist everything everyone says into something retarded like that?

[Manco]

why does every muslim on this forum try and twist everything everyone says into something retarded like that?

And the Space-Irony continuum has been torn apart again.

[Space Wolves]

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[Space Wolves]

Mercs would be a great asset to clear the waters of piracy, as well as there ports, the only problem is the politics.