Siege rams and towers

[Valiant Champion]

Well once I took a look I realized why orc armies that spawned near Grunburg couldnt take my town is not only lack of the seige tower but also no ram.

The problem is in EDU and I assume on purpose.

number of crew 4
number of engines 3

Tortoise ram requires 10 crew members. If game set on huge armies you might get to squeeze one in there but otherwise impossible.

Simply changing all ram units to have 10 or more crew and one ram model will help spawn armies perform their roles.

I assume that this was done to keep the models off the battle map. I can understand this with siege engine towers cause they might not be working yet but ram should have no problem.

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Actually this goes much deeper. This 4,3 goes across board for just about every engine.

This is why cannon has only one model

while hellblaster has three.

cannon and mortars require 3 men to operate while Hellblaster only requires 1.

This needs to be addressed immediately and could solve some issues with spawn armies as well as balance issues with various seige weapons.

[Werebear]

just change number of engines to 1

[Valiant Champion]

just change number of engines to 1

Yes.

Was this on purpose or is it accident. What should the figures be for catapults and cannons?

Do all supposed to be 3?

[Werebear]

That was bug, we didnt know, because we all play in huge settings....

just make all rums and towers to 1

later we will release patch

[+Mr.Crow+]

That was bug, we didnt know, because we all play in huge settings....

just make all rums and towers to 1

later we will release patch

Can anyone say me how i can temporarily resolve the problem of siege towers and rams? because i'm unable to play a normal campain...........this problem happens when i set the units size on normal....and i must set the unit size on normal because i haven't a strongh PC!!!
I don't wont to wait the patch because i wont to play now this beautifull mod!!!!

please, can someone tell me step to step how i can solve this ing problem?

PS:sorry for my english...i hope that someone understand me!

[Valiant Champion]

Can anyone say me how i can temporarily resolve the problem of siege towers and rams? because i'm unable to play a normal campain...........this problem happens when i set the units size on normal....and i must set the unit size on normal because i haven't a strongh PC!!!
I don't wont to wait the patch because i wont to play now this beautifull mod!!!!

please, can someone tell me step to step how i can solve this ing problem?

PS:sorry for my english...i hope that someone understand me!

Use my EDU mod.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...2&d=1262735127

I have it optimized for all unit sizes as well as other fixes.

[Valiant Champion]

So towers will work?

Do they fire?

They also will need enough crew. 10 for rams but cant remember for towers ....

6 or 8?

[Ozzmosis]

So towers will work?

Do they fire?

They also will need enough crew. 10 for rams but cant remember for towers ....

6 or 8?

In M2TW siege towers do not have ballistae in them, only in RTW

[Valiant Champion]

In M2TW siege towers do not have ballistae in them, only in RTW

As a battlefield unit I wondered if they worked on them as a crew served weapon of some sort.

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LOL ROFL!!!!

You are SO wrong, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!!

The siege towers are shooting missiles!!!!

The ammo is set to 2. It appears the projectile firing height is in line with a heliopolis and not the small or middle seige towers. Also the unit is not set to fire at will.

If I can I am going to be sending out some reps if I havent already.

Who figured out how to make them shoot missiles? Was it as simple as making them a unit instead of as seige equipment?

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I have been trying for years to figure out how to get the siege engine towers to shoot missiles.

I am going to give them a 200 round magazine to see how they work. If they do than it would definitely add to the game challenge as many of the spawn armies are usually aimed at making the game harder for a player.

[Valiant Champion]

The best thing to do for engines is to give them a universal number and enough troops to man them. It's obvious that it is not a good idea to have the number 3 for rams or siege towers and list enough man to man one on small or normal setting.

In field battles even with 3 hit points these units are not much good unless you make them out of an effective unit and in enough numbers to contribute to a field battle. Plus 3 hit points for seige engines is a bit unrealistic.

I personally gave all siege weapons 2 models and a crew of 20 in the EDU. Thought seriously about 3.

I changed all rams and siege towers to 1 model with 20 crew.

changed all hit points to 1.

On normal setting I think the crews are at 26. On huge they should be about double that.

Actually considering giving rams and towers full size combat units instead of smaller regiments.

[Ozzmosis]

I am pretty sure towers in M2TW do not shoot missiles. they have no blue ammunition bar at the bottom, and never ever while defending a siege, have I ever come under fire from them, nor have I ever seen my towers shooting when I had them. In RTW it was a matter of putting auto-fire on, but there is no such option here.

[Valiant Champion]

I am pretty sure towers in M2TW do not shoot missiles. they have no blue ammunition bar at the bottom, and never ever while defending a siege, have I ever come under fire from them, nor have I ever seen my towers shooting when I had them. In RTW it was a matter of putting auto-fire on, but there is no such option here.

M2tw vanilla

not call of warhammer total war spawn army seige tower units

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Update!!

The AI will use the towers missiles even though it is not set at fire at will