Can you change a general's bodyguard unit from mounted to dismounted?

**Athalwulf** · January 02, 2010, 07:47 PM

I've been wondering if this was possible because I dislike seeing Glorfindel, Elladan, and Elrohir with mounted bodyguard while Elrond gets a bodyguard unit of spearmen.

I also assume that if this is possible it's not save compatible.

**EOMER** · January 02, 2010, 10:58 PM

yes it is possible to change the bodyguards of heros

**Kamakai** · January 03, 2010, 09:01 AM

Aye but how? I dont like them on horses either even though Glorfndel is a horse master guy.

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**Athalwulf** · January 03, 2010, 01:50 PM

That's how Glorfindel was depicted in the movies.

And what exactly do I have to edit to make them non-mounted.

**Raiven** · January 03, 2010, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Kamakai

Aye but how? I dont like them on horses either even though Glorfndel is a horse master guy.

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Agree you about picture! He realy dont look like one of mightiest elven wariors in that one!

**Dea Paladin** · January 03, 2010, 02:03 PM

Ahh, you have to edit their unit in the model.db file. Press Ctrl+F and search for the hero you want. Or maybe it was the descr_stat? I dont really remember xD

**The Holy Pilgrim** · January 03, 2010, 02:05 PM

Go to the "descr_strat" file in your "imperial_campaign" folder (C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign), and find Glorfindel.

His section should look like this

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If you want them to have the same bodyguard as Elrond, just find his section

It should look like this

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Just copy the first unit in Elrond's army and replace Glorfindel's first unit.

Glorfindel's section should now look like this

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Glorfindel should now have Spearmen for bodyguards, just like Elrond. You can also do this for any other general in any mod.

Note: Elrond's section did NOT change in this transfer. It should still look the same.

Hope that helped

**Ellin Athinaios** · January 03, 2010, 02:08 PM

For the starting generals you have to edit their bodyguard unit in descr_strat, and in export_descr_unit for everyone else.

**Bersian** · March 04, 2011, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Ellin Athinaios

For the starting generals you have to edit their bodyguard unit in descr_strat, and in export_descr_unit for everyone else.

What would I look for here? And can I use any unit at all?

Found what needs to be edited. Do I need to create a whole new bodyguard unit? I'm changing eriador over to BR Dunedain. So in descrir_unit or whatever I need to create a BR Dunedain BG, right? Do I just copy the BR Dunedain part and add "BG" to it? Confused...

**eugenioso** · March 04, 2011, 10:54 AM

fun fact: you could mount/dismount units at the pre battle screen in the original medieval total war.

**alreadyded** · March 04, 2011, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Bersian

What would I look for here? And can I use any unit at all?

Found what needs to be edited. Do I need to create a whole new bodyguard unit? I'm changing eriador over to BR Dunedain. So in descrir_unit or whatever I need to create a BR Dunedain BG, right? Do I just copy the BR Dunedain part and add "BG" to it? Confused...

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=430644

Use a unit that already exists in the edu, otherwise you will have to make/clone a new one.

**Bersian** · March 04, 2011, 11:29 AM

Saw that, thanks though. I want to change the bodyguard for all future generals too. I changed it the way it says to and now all my Eriador towns have no generals or armies... Not sure what went wrong. I didn't delete any generals (they're still in descr_strat).

EDIT: and now I can't use Silvan Elves (maybe other ones too). Plus the options for submods (from the MOS) do not come up when starting a campaign. All I did was change the name of every first unit in descr_strat to "BR Dunedain"... O_o;

Now I've Ended turn as Eriador and at the beginning of every turn one of the generals I'm supposed to start with is recruited... This is strange.

Worked, I fixed it but sometimes when i click start battle the game closes due to an "unidentified error"...

**kevindrosario** · April 26, 2011, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bersian

I want to change the bodyguard for all future generals too.

When selecting a bodyguard unit for a character, the game simply selects the first available unit with the "general_unit" attribute for that faction in export_descr_units. If you want a certain bodyguard for a faction, put the entry above the current bodyguard unit for that faction.

Originally Posted by Kid Stein

I have a problem. I changed Gandalf's bodyguards to the Grey Company and changed Aragorn's age (So he starts out younger) but now when I try to start a new campaign it just takes me back to the starting screen. What did I do wrong? :o

What did you change Aragorn's age to? Also, post your error log.

**Armaghost** · June 07, 2011, 06:40 PM

brain fart I really gotta pay attn to date

**Kamakai** · January 03, 2010, 04:15 PM

Aww this doesnt work with me...

**ackrite26** · January 03, 2010, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kamakai

Aww this doesnt work with me...

What submods are you running?

**Muffer Nl** · June 07, 2011, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Kamakai

Aww this doesnt work with me...

This is NOT save game compatible.

**Netheriel** · June 04, 2013, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Muffer Nl

This is NOT save game compatible.

If I change Arnor Generals bodyguards in the file, when in the game I evolve from Eriador to Arnor, the generals bodyguards will change?For all the generals I already have?