Clearly it can't possibly be a "dumb unconcious and vague energy source" say the kind of thing you would normally get from a purely scientific explanation but the FSM himself. Some people may think it's that Bronze Age Jewish God but I know better.
Clearly it can't possibly be a "dumb unconcious and vague energy source" say the kind of thing you would normally get from a purely scientific explanation but the FSM himself. Some people may think it's that Bronze Age Jewish God but I know better.
Last edited by motiv-8; December 30, 2009 at 02:57 PM.
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don’t nock the force man, how else do you think the universe came into existence.
Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.
I was joking of course, however, whatever did bring the universe into being is probably equal to, or more than, the total amount of strong and weak nuclear forces in the universe. If we could tap into that you got yourself one hell of an energy resource.Jut make up anything you fancy, but the fact is that it did come into existence for some reason, though whatever it was I don't think it's anything worth worrying about.
Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.
Those were off the shoulder of Orion. Sheesh mate, get your PTSDs in order...
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"If you can't agree with this logic then you're stubborn, unreasonable, and don't want to believe in the possible existence of a Flying Spaghetti Monster."
There you have it you can't argue with that. What particularly convinced me was the mystical music that played throughout, it really hammers it home.
Oh, boy. All this is is the clever manipulation of facts, a bunch of smoke-and-mirrors nonsense used by a devoutly religious person to justify himself. If you truly believe in God, then faith should be sufficient for you, and you shouldn't have to justify it to yourself... or to anybody else.
Of course, but notice the title of the thread:
The existence of the Flying Spagehetti Monster proved with science alone.
It's a reductio ad absurdum.
You can substitue Flying Spagehetti Monster for Invisible Pink Unicorn or any other nonsense being someone just made up for the fun of it, you could have the Force from Star Wars as well or Amun-Ra or Yahweh.
Last edited by Helm; December 30, 2009 at 02:43 PM.
That energy has probably long been spent by now, whatever it was.
There are singularities at the heart of black holes, much the same thing only they collapse inwards instead of exploding outwards. Perhaps there's some kind of connection between them.
Well, black holes just have the mass of a decent-sized star in them... the theoretical Big Bang one had quite a bit more.
'Course, given how bat**** crazy space-time goes already around the former, I can really do without the headaches that result from thinking about this stuff too hard.
PTSDs= Post-traumatic Stress Disorders?
No its what everything is made of - still.That energy has probably long been spent by now, whatever it was.
I don’t think you can have infinitely small as small defines the unlimited as limited in some way, I think that rather than a single super particle of something, it is far more likely that the singularity was indeed a force [with a centre][super strong nuclear force or something]. Something has to make it go critical, and it has to come from something, therefore it makes far more sense if energy is a total force originally, one that later becomes the forces we know. That way we have an explanation for what drives the whole thing from its primary origins.If you go by the Big Bang theory (which is the current top contender), that "energy source" was *everything* in our existing universe collapsed into a single, infinitely dense singularity - and that rather mind-boggling thing going critical.
Just a theory of course, I just struggle to get from 0 to existence in any other way.
Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.