Traits

[dvk901]

Suppanut is looking for a full time assistant to help him write descriptions for various traits added to RS2. This is a really important aspect of RS2, and the applicant needs to be serious about helping, and committed. Please PM\contact him if you are willing to help. The more dedicated helpers here, the faster it will get done....in theory, anyway.

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

HI, i found a small typo in one of the ancillaries, playing as rome after defeating a carthaginian army, i got "Numidian Noble" , in the descriptive text it says
.....has defected to their ennemy....... (too many N's in enemy) I know its only a small error, but hey i found it

[dvk901]

Fixed.

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

Cool, On the subject of traits, well sort of , i have noticed that the bonuses for characters seem to be few and far between, new characters start with nothing, or almost nothing. and i guess we have dropped the whole military service traits thing?

[tone]

Suppanut is working on this, and I thought had got it working.

We do need some decisions about what bonuses the new traits should bring though, the generic ones that is. ....and we need them urgently.

This mod NEEDS to be released by the end of the month.

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

This mod NEEDS to be released by the end of the month.

Wow thats a bit of a close deadline, are we that close to finishing now then ?

[tone]

Yes, I think we are.
Besides which:
1) We need to get this out to the fans - I suspect even then there'll be some fine tuning that just can't happen within the beta context and probably bug fixing too
2) I need to give my wife her husband back again - and I've said that we'll be released by the end of the month.

[dvk901]

I agree. Once released, we'll just have to fine tune a lot of things.

[MarcusTullius]

Yes, I think we are.
Besides which:
1) We need to get this out to the fans - I suspect even then there'll be some fine tuning that just can't happen within the beta context and probably bug fixing too
2) I need to give my wife her husband back again - and I've said that we'll be released by the end of the month.

I agree. Once released, we'll just have to fine tune a lot of things.

Maybe its worth setting a rolling deadline for the moment Just so we can finish major elements i.e. unit descriptions, building images and any other "big" elements.

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

as long as we tell them to check the forum for updates, i dont think they will mind, the progress you have made since RS 1.5 is staggering, the traits system can be tuned and added later, it does not take away from the gameplay, it will just add a Role playing element to the game.

[Philip_II]

Unit Descriptions literally have two or three remaining. And they're written, for the most part, which means we just need to edit and it's done.

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

oK JUST DID THE LATEST UPDATE, went back to my campaign ended turn and POW segestica which has been mine for about 10 turns now was bribed with 2 characters and a full stack, my top general at the moment (4 stars and 2 influence) and his son, all gone, i look a bit closer at him and all traits seem to be useless, there might be a nice long list of traits but all seem to have no effect well at least thats what they say in the description box.
Examples :
optimist
slow
hard worker
Hasty
confidant
considerate
loyal
passionate
honest.
senatorial class
medium client network
small estate
the last three from a guy with no influence, loyalty or management skills and at 57 it says he is young

[tone]

Yes, I've flagged this as an important issue that needs fixing in the dev forum. Unfortunately it was work that Calvin started and was never able to finish - I have asked Suppanut and Squid to look at these as a matter of urgency.
Here are the list of personality traits....maybe we could get some input on what effects they should have??

To quote Calvin:

Base Personalities

1. Optimist -> Dreamer
2. Pessimist -> Depressed
3. Honest
4. Dishonest
5. Shy -> Introverted
6. Confident -> Charismatic
7. Intelligent -> Genius
8. Slow -> Feebleminded
9. Considerate -> Kind -> Benevolent
10. Harsh -> Brutal -> Savage
11. Hard Working
12. Procrastinator -> Lazy -> Bone-idle
13. Passionate -> Zealous
14. Hot-headed -> Angry -> Filled with rage
15. Stoic -> Indomitable
16. Hasty -> Careless
17. Loyal -> Fiercely Loyal
18. Conceited -> Arrogant -> Pompous

I've designed a rather intricate anti-trait system that goes along with these so that a character 'makes sense'. There are enough traits to allow for many different combinations so there shouldn't be too many 'clones' running around.

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

Base Personalities

1. Optimist -> Dreamer +1m -1SQ/ +2m -2SQ
2. Pessimist -> Depressed -1m +1SQ/ -2m +2SQ
3. Honest +1L +1m -1SQ
4. Dishonest -1L -1m +1SQ
5. Shy -> Introverted
6. Confident -> Charismatic +1m +1L / +1m +2L
7. Intelligent -> Genius +2m +1L -1SQ/ +3m +2L -2SQ
8. Slow -> Feebleminded -1m / -2m
9. Considerate -> Kind -> Benevolent +1Inf +1loy -1 SQ / +2Inf +2Loy -2SQ / +3Inf +3Loy -3SQ
10. Harsh -> Brutal -> Savage +1C +1L -1INF / +2c +2Loy -2INF / +3C +2Loy -3INF
11. Hard Working +1 to everything -2SQ
12. Procrastinator -> Lazy -> Bone-idle -1M
13. Passionate -> Zealous +1 to everything _1SQ- +2 to everything -2SQ
14. Hot-headed -> Angry -> Filled with rage -1 INF +1C / -2 INF +2C / -3INF +3C
15. Stoic -> Indomitable +2 INF +2 Loy +1 M / +3 INF +3 Loy +2 M
16. Hasty -> Careless -1m -1C / -2m -2C
17. Loyal -> Fiercely Loyal +3 Loy / +5 Loy
18. Conceited -> Arrogant -> Pompous +1Loy -2INF / +2Loy -3INf / +3 Loy -4Inf

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

it just happened again, another settlement bribed, Patavium, what was in the last update?

[dvk901]

I changed a spelling error in a description. That's all.

[Legionary Titus Pullo]

ok i now have about 3 assasins in every city as well as spies and diplomats, i dont know if it makes any difference to settlement loyalty but at least, i can kill or bribe anyone that approaches my settlements.