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    From XGM Readme: In addition Carthage has easy access to Balearic Slingers, and can recruit Gaesatae (high quality Barbarian Swordsmen) in Barbarian regions.

    I have not been able to recruit Gaesatae although I have conquered the entire Iberia region which has barbaric culture. Where exactly are they recruitable?

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    They are recruitable in Gaul and I think in other celtic regions.

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    your Auxiliary Barracks buildings in the Gaul area may not be of sufficient level.

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    Default Re: Carthage unit roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Boriak View Post
    From XGM Readme: In addition Carthage has easy access to Balearic Slingers, and can recruit Gaesatae (high quality Barbarian Swordsmen) in Barbarian regions.

    I have not been able to recruit Gaesatae although I have conquered the entire Iberia region which has barbaric culture. Where exactly are they recruitable?
    Balearic Slingers isn't Iberian at all and of course you can't train them in Iberia.You can train them at the small island between Iberia and Africa the drawback here is the island is small and have small population as well including it will take 2-3 turn to bring new Balearic Slingers to front line

    About Gaesatae I think you can try to go further into Gaul region

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    My favorite kind of Balearic Slingers are the ones I recruit as mercenaries. That way you get 0 turn recruitment, no impact on any of your small town's population, and they are retrainable if you have the settlement that can train them. Thats one of my favorite things about the AoR units. Many of the mercenaries that can be hired also can be retrained in the right settlement, including the Cretan Archers and Rhodian Slingers. If you're playing as Carthage and can't recruit the Balearic Slingers, note that occasionally one can find a unit or two as mercenaries on Sicily.
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    This thread was not about Balearic Slingers; I know where they are trained. I was asking about Gaesetae which were supposed to be recruitable in Barbaric Regions. Since Iberia has Barbaric Culture I was confused. Perhaps the readme should say they are recruitable in Celtic Regions.

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    I have captured Tolosa, a Gallic city. Still no Gaesetai to train. Are there any specific buildings I need besides Auxillary Barracks?

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    I could really use some help here guys. I was counting on the use of Gaesatai.

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    I think they were removed some versions ago.

    Expand your borders, a mod based on XGM 5.

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    You could mod them in.

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    I'm not sure I want to put them in if they were taken out. I was counting on using them but to insert them makes the game lose something. They are strong units, perhaps too strong. Would it be too easy to win if I put them in? I hate this kind of decisions.

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    i have a question about the carthage unit roster

    why is there no standard ranged unit that can be recruitable in all carthage cities?
    ive taken some iberian and roman settlements but i cant train any archers, slingers or javelin's from them
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    You have civic infantry which are more or less heavy peltasts. You have Nuragic skirmishers and Nuragic Warriors recruitable on Sardinia and Corsica. And Italy is not so far away from the African coast.

    Try transporting Balearic Slingers and Iberian Infantry to Greece! Now that's a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin616 View Post
    i have a question about the carthage unit roster

    why is there no standard ranged unit that can be recruitable in all carthage cities?
    ive taken some iberian and roman settlements but i cant train any archers, slingers or javelin's from them
    This is why the Numidian archers were added in. Its essentially identical to other factions regular archers, but serves to limit Carthage's recruitment... Their other sources of bowmen would be Nubia and Crete, or just stick to Balearics and Numidians.



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    i like using units that can be retrained
    how can i fight if i have to train new armies every time i enter a new area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin616 View Post
    i like using units that can be retrained
    how can i fight if i have to train new armies every time i enter a new area?
    Try to rally in your very own troop you have and use AOR units correctly.Example:If i am playing Carthage my main force is Civic heavy infantry and some Civic light while Nuragic Warriors will support them in Italy.

    When you bring war to Hellenic lands.Thureophoroi,Hoplite and Doryphoroi (for Garrison) will help you conquest Macedon,Greek and West SE.When you move to the East Skimisher,eastern infantry,cav will serve you well

    Remember don't try to take AOR units too far from their home because you can't retrain them.

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    Carthage wasn't renowned for its Infantry but they were rich,so you should be able to recruit loads of mercs and AOR units.

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    Supply lines. Train up a few replacement units and send them in behind your main force then send back depleted forces. But once you pass a certain point, you will need to change your composition.

    Expand your borders, a mod based on XGM 5.

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    That's why I love Nuragic Warriors in my Carthaginian campaign. They are very close to Italy and they are a very good light infantry unit. I can easily and quickly replace the losses from Sardinia and Corsica. I put several of these units in the first line of battle and let them take the brunt of the pila storm while simultaneously they throw their javelins. After that the heavy infantry (local Italic Infantry and Greek Hoplites from Tarentum) moves past them.

    I'm about to hit and conquer Rome itself. I already have three new Nuragic Warrior units waiting on a ship right beside Rome to replace the losses and to take the battered units for retraining.

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    civic infantry arent good at holding a line against superior infantry though
    at least not in my experiace
    and that still doesnt do anything about the lack of a standard ranged unit for them
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