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    Default Ideas for Patch 1.4

    Hey, well i was just coming up with some ideas for the factions for Third age total war. These are some good ideas i've heard from other people and ect.





    Isengaurd: Maybe we could have some of those Isenguard guards like in the movie, like those man guards.


    Rohan: If you have seen the movies then you would know that rohan are the HORSE MASTERS, but in Third age total war Rohans Calavry is really under powered by alot. So maybe we could adjust that.


    Mordor: If you've noticed Mordor Trolls aswell as all the trolls are very very very overpowered. If you've seen LOTR Return of the king book/movie, you would know that they are easy to kill with Arrows, but in TATW they can last the whole game without taking alot of damage. Which makes them unrealistic.


    Harad: If you noticed Harad is mostly made out of Archery units and light Calavry, which makes it gay cause they dont even have good spearmen, and the Calavry also is Under powered, maybe we could make some better Calavry units, and better spearmen units. In the books Harad does have some great infantry, and Calavry units that are affective.
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    Default Re: Ideas for Patch 1.4

    A human Isengard unit is included in 1.4 check the preview thread.

    Rohan has a ridiculous amount of cavalry, at one point they had more cavalry than infantry.

    Trolls are fine, and don't base your LotR knowlage off of the films they aren't credible.

    Better cavalry for Harad? They have Mumaks FFS.

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    Please could you all just stop complaining about trolls?! Iīm really growing tired of all the whining trolls are too strong, they are overpowered etc... They are monsters like they are supposed to be! If you canīt get them down before they reach infantry, then you are in a whole world of trouble and you will suffer great casualties. But every faction has a counter for them - lossarnach axemen, rohan skirmishers or so, you just have to learn how to use them and donīt ignorantly expect, that gondor militia or infantry will bring them down...
    BTW just finished SE campaign with RR/RC and no single troll ever reached my lines, in last battle I recall 3 units of 7-9 exp. sentries brought them down with 5 voleys ( the armored ones), then massacred the nazgul and then 4 units of uruks before they could even strike, and I was stationed only on a mild hill, not some freaky mountain..
    The point is, learn how to fight with what you got, and donīt just complain and underpower this or overpower that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaltorak View Post
    Please could you all just stop complaining about trolls?! Iīm really growing tired of all the whining trolls are too strong, they are overpowered etc... They are monsters like they are supposed to be! If you canīt get them down before they reach infantry, then you are in a whole world of trouble and you will suffer great casualties. But every faction has a counter for them - lossarnach axemen, rohan skirmishers or so, you just have to learn how to use them and donīt ignorantly expect, that gondor militia or infantry will bring them down...
    BTW just finished SE campaign with RR/RC and no single troll ever reached my lines, in last battle I recall 3 units of 7-9 exp. sentries brought them down with 5 voleys ( the armored ones), then massacred the nazgul and then 4 units of uruks before they could even strike, and I was stationed only on a mild hill, not some freaky mountain..
    The point is, learn how to fight with what you got, and donīt just complain and underpower this or overpower that...
    or just reduce the hit points jejeje

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    sure, or nerf them the way you like to be harmless puppies...

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    Trolls are joke... and as always
    Its easy to make war with others, its never been easy when we need a peace.



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    Default Re: Ideas for Patch 1.4

    No offense, but all these changes have pretty much no lore or research in them. They are just what YOU think. Not what Tolkien's world was like

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    Maybe chariots for Rhun?
    They are in real recruiment for third age.
    Last edited by T&D; December 29, 2009 at 02:40 AM.

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    Default Re: Ideas for Patch 1.4

    1. There are already dozens of ideas threads, post your ideas there...

    2. 1.4 content is already determined as the release is closeby , your ideas should be for 1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragon45 View Post
    Rohan: If you have seen the movies then you would know that rohan are the HORSE MASTERS, but in Third age total war Rohans Calavry is really under powered by alot. So maybe we could adjust that.
    I agree with this point.

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    Default Re: Ideas for Patch 1.4

    1. There is a suggestion thread - it's called like that because you can post your suggestions there
    2. It will be a bit late for patch 1.4 which should be more or less ready by now...

    EDIT: Sorry, I saw too late that Plumo has already posted basically the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragon45 View Post
    Hey, well i was just coming up with some ideas for the factions for Third age total war. These are some good ideas i've heard from other people and ect.

    Isengaurd: Maybe we could have some of those Isenguard guards like in the movie, like those man guards.
    Just wondering - were in movie Isengard had man guards!? Sorry, but I remember only mob of wild man and I have seen movies (extended) countless times!
    Last edited by Raiven; December 29, 2009 at 05:10 AM.

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    No in the film you only get to see the Dunlendings. But in the book, Merry (or Pippin I'm not sure) said that Saruman was still wise enough not to trust his orcs and so he used men to guard Orthanc and the gates. That's the reason why theyy find that much of men food.
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    nef aear, si nef aearon!
    German Translation --- Translator

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    Yes, yes I know, but guy was talking about movies!
    And about food, I think that it mostly were there for Saruman and maby Wormtongue!

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    I'm quite sure that it was saidd that the food was also for the human guards, and if we talk only about the films, ok then perhaps it was only for Saruman and Wormtongue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tombene View Post
    I'm quite sure that it was saidd that the food was also for the human guards, and if we talk only about the films, ok then perhaps it was only for Saruman and Wormtongue.
    I think you were right about the guards. I have read the Two Towers a while ago, but I can remember that Merry and Pippin were eating food they found in a storage near the guardspost at the main gate.. I think they were even speculating that it was ment for the guards (although I'm not sure wether they ment orcs or men, but the later seems to be the case.)

    (This scene only appears briefly in the extended version of the movie)
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    Default Re: Ideas for Patch 1.4

    It's kinda late for 1.4 ideas, maybe 1.5?

    As has been said, Isen is getting an elite-ish human unit.

    Rohan's can isn't as weak as it seems, they just lack the "very heavy armour" but they're cheap and numerous while still being strong.

    Trolls are easily nerfed in the EDU but who knows, KK might even consider it since so many people are asking for it. Though he prefers to make things hard.

    Harad is supposed to be a "light" desert faction so whatever weakness you've detected is deliberate. Their light cav has a strong charge and southron pikemen should be able to take care of any opposing cavalry provided they're not shredded by archers but that's just something you have to deal with. We'll see what the troll-men bring to the table. It won't be spears though.

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    Only reading the first post is like a deep hit into my heart...so i better don't comment, to stay neutral and friendly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean=A=Luc View Post
    It's kinda late for 1.4 ideas, maybe 1.5?

    As has been said, Isen is getting an elite-ish human unit.

    Rohan's can isn't as weak as it seems, they just lack the "very heavy armour" but they're cheap and numerous while still being strong.

    Trolls are easily nerfed in the EDU but who knows, KK might even consider it since so many people are asking for it. Though he prefers to make things hard.

    Harad is supposed to be a "light" desert faction so whatever weakness you've detected is deliberate. Their light cav has a strong charge and southron pikemen should be able to take care of any opposing cavalry provided they're not shredded by archers but that's just something you have to deal with. We'll see what the troll-men bring to the table. It won't be spears though.
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    Im sick of people complaining about thr trolls, if you are such a wussy and you lack the skill to fight them, then change the Unit stats in the files for the trolls, just stop annoying the rest of us who like a challenge >
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