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    UNICEF confirms that Cuba is the only country in Latin America and the Caribbean that child malnutrition has been eliminated.




    The existence in the developing world 146 million children under five underweight, contrasts with the reality of Cuban infants, recognized worldwide for being outside the social evil.
    These alarming figures emerged in a recent report by the United Nations Fund for Children (UNICEF), entitled Progress for Children, A Report Card on Nutrition, released at UN headquarters.
    According to the document, the percentage of underweight children are 28 percent in Sub-Saharan Africa, 17 in Middle East and North Africa, 15 in East Asia and the Pacific and seven in Latin America and the Caribbean.
    The complete table of Central and Eastern Europe, with five percent, and other developing countries, with 27 percent.
    Cuba has no such problems, is the only country in Latin America and the Caribbean that has eliminated severe child malnutrition, thanks to government efforts to improve the diet of the people, especially those most vulnerable.
    The harsh realities of the world show that 852 million people suffer from hunger and that 53 million live in Latin America. Only in Mexico there are five million 200 thousand people malnourished and in Haiti, three million 800 thousand, while across the globe die of hunger every year more than five million children.
    According to United Nations estimates, it would be very costly to achieve basic health and nutrition for all people in the Third World.
    Suffice to meet this target of 13 billion dollars a year additional to what is intended now, a figure that has never been achieved and that is meager when compared with the trillion spent each year on commercial advertising, over 400 thousand million in narcotic drugs or even eight billion spent on cosmetics in the United States.
    To the delight of Cuba, the United Nations Organization for Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) has also acknowledged that it is the nation with more progress in Latin America in the fight against malnutrition.
    The Cuban state guarantees basic food basket that allows the nutrition of its population? “At least at basic levels-through the distribution of regulated products.
    Similarly, adjustments are made cheap in other markets and local services to improve the nutrition of the Cuban people and to mitigate the food shortage.
    Especially keeps a constant watch on the livelihoods of children, and adolescents. Thus, attention to nutrition begins with the promotion of better nutrition and natural way of human kind.
    From the earliest days of age the incalculable benefits of breastfeeding justify all the efforts made in Cuba for health and development of their children.
    This has enabled it to raise the percentage of newborns who remain until the fourth month of life, exclusive breastfeeding and even continue to consume milk, supplemented with other foods until six months old.
    Currently, 99 percent of newborns maternity leavers with exclusive breastfeeding than the proposed goal, which is 95 percent, according to official data, which indicates that all provinces to meet this target.
    Despite the difficult economic conditions traversed by the Island, ensuring food and nutrition of infants through daily delivery of a liter of fluid milk to all children from zero to seven years old.
    Adding to this the delivery of other foods, eg jams, juices and meats, which, depending on the available funds in the country, distributed equally across the ages smaller children.
    Until the age of 13 prioritizes the subsidized distribution of complementary products such as soy yogurt and natural disaster situations protects children by providing free food staples.
    The child-care centers incorporated into the (nursery) and primary schools are FULL TIME regime also benefit from the continuing effort to improve their diets in terms of dietary components and milk protein.
    With the support of agricultural production-even in conditions of severe drought, and increased food imports is reached nutrient intake above the standards set by FAO.
    In Cuba, this indicator is not adding fictitious average food consumption of the rich and the hungry.
    Additionally, the social consumption includes the school lunch that is distributed free to hundreds of thousands of students and education workers, special supplies of food to children through age 15 and people over 60 in the eastern provinces.
    On that list are provided for pregnant women, nursing mothers, elderly and disabled, food supplementation for children with low weight and size and food supply to municipalities of Pinar del Rio, Havana and Isla de la Juventud.
    These institutions were hit by hurricanes last year, while the provinces of Holguin, Las Tunas and Camaguey five municipalities are currently experiencing drought.
    In this effort works the World Food Program (WFP), which contributes to improving the nutritional status of vulnerable populations in the eastern region, where more profit of 631 thousand people.
    WFP cooperation with Cuba dating back to 1963 when the agency provided immediate assistance to victims of Hurricane Flora. To date, the country has accomplished in five development projects and 14 emergency operations.

    Recently, Cuba went from being a recipient to donor.
    The issue of malnutrition looms large in the UN campaign in 2015 to achieve the Millennium Development Goals, adopted at the Summit of Heads of State and Government held in 2000 and which have among their goals to eliminate extreme poverty and hunger by that date.
    But the Cubans say that these goals do not take away anyone’s dream, the UN itself puts the country at the forefront of compliance with such challenges in human development.
    Not without shortcomings, difficulties and limitations of a serious economic, commercial and financial embargo imposed by the United States more than four decades, Cuba does not show desperate nor alarming rates of child malnutrition.
    None of the 146 million children under five underweight living in the world today is Cuban.




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    Damn Commies, being capable of feeding their kids... and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlassmurf View Post
    Damn Commies, being capable of feeding their kids... and all that.
    it is rather to deny facts that peope in cuba are starving or are malnutrtioned

    as you can seee , cappies from latin america cant feed all their children , not to mention malnutrition




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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy spong View Post
    it is rather to deny facts that peope in cuba are starving or are malnutrtioned

    as you can seee , cappies from latin america cant feed all their children , not to mention malnutrition

    Ummmmm I don't think anyone really thought cubans were starving. That spot is reserved for Africa and the bad parts of China and India
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    People aren't starving, so Cuba is doing well?


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    People aren't starving, so finally the communism is working well.

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    People aren't starving, so finally the communism is working well.
    ...NOT

    Communism: a society in which everyone is equal
    Cuba: El Jefe and his little clan of top-commies are in power, the people has nothing to do with power

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxandrius View Post
    ...NOT

    Communism: a society in which everyone is equal
    Cuba: El Jefe and his little clan of top-commies are in power, the people has nothing to do with power
    again , this is to deny your blabbering how cubans are starving

    fidel is just one of the equal cubans , he doesnt have any bigger rights above other cubans




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    again , this is to deny your blabbering how cubans are starving
    Did I ? NO
    Do we need to know that they are not starving ? No, 'cause it's enough to know that Communism doesn't work...

    fidel is just one of the equal cubans , he doesnt have any bigger rights above other cubans
    yes, ofcourse, a dictator is a normal person ...
    and the power shift from Fidel to Raul was a democratical move ...
    Animal Farm anyone ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy spong View Post
    again , this is to deny your blabbering how cubans are starving

    fidel is just one of the equal cubans , he doesnt have any bigger rights above other cubans

    You are deluded, like all communists are. My cousin married a cuban, and I can tell you there is a reason to why they now live in Europe and not Cuba. Your inglorious glorification of Fidel and communism says to me you are either dishonest or just seriously deluded.
    lol

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    When my mom and dad were in Cuba, they were young and were sent off to the "escuelas del campo", basically boardings school set in the middle of the countryside. Their meals for the day were:
    • Breakfast: A cup of milk and coffee with some toast the size of half a typical Wonder-bread slice.
    • Snack: Sneaking off into the locals farmers field to steal tomatoes and corn was routine. Cuba is thankfully a tropical country so fruits grow wild.
    • Snack (cont.): All students were, as part of their education, to pick crops and do general field work. This was a blessing in that you could eat whatever you were working on as soon as you were not being watched.
    • Lunch: Black bean gruel with some rice.
    • Small portions of lentil stews, black bean gruels with rice, most of the time some meat.
    This is back in the the late 70s, when the Soviet nipple was lactating quite generously.

    Also this report does not mention the amount of debt Cuba is in for importing eighty percent of its food. The entire system is unsustainable and is going to collapse soon. You could argue that the capitalist nations have similar problems with debt, but they at least have the economic capacity to pay it off.

    Also, where did UNICEF get these numbers? Cuba is very much a closed system, where information going out of the island is closely monitored by the secret police and where journalists and bloggers are regularly beaten and imprisoned. Statistics also tend to be made with archaic methods that are incredibly fraudulent and the lack of accessibility to the island make it hard to verify these claims. A shovelful of salt should be used whenever considering Cuban statistics.

    BTW, I think this should be in the Mudpit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Valle View Post
    When my mom and dad were in Cuba, they were young and were sent off to the "escuelas del campo", basically boardings school set in the middle of the countryside. Their meals for the day were:
    • Breakfast: A cup of milk and coffee with some toast the size of half a typical Wonder-bread slice.
    • Snack: Sneaking off into the locals farmers field to steal tomatoes and corn was routine. Cuba is thankfully a tropical country so fruits grow wild.
    • Snack (cont.): All students were, as part of their education, to pick crops and do general field work. This was a blessing in that you could eat whatever you were working on as soon as you were not being watched.
    • Lunch: Black bean gruel with some rice.
    • Small portions of lentil stews, black bean gruels with rice, most of the time some meat.

    This is back in the the late 70s, when the Soviet nipple was lactating quite generously.

    Also this report does not mention the amount of debt Cuba is in for importing eighty percent of its food. The entire system is unsustainable and is going to collapse soon. You could argue that the capitalist nations have similar problems with debt, but they at least have the economic capacity to pay it off.

    Also, where did UNICEF get these numbers? Cuba is very much a closed system, where information going out of the island is closely monitored by the secret police and where journalists and bloggers are regularly beaten and imprisoned. Statistics also tend to be made with archaic methods that are incredibly fraudulent and the lack of accessibility to the island make it hard to verify these claims. A shovelful of salt should be used whenever considering Cuban statistics.

    BTW, I think this should be in the Mudpit.
    dont lie

    unicef is present in cuba

    and its not closed system , anyone can travell to cuba




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    The problem with communist Cuba never had anything to do with 'children starving', it's the lack of freedom and incentive to improve as a person in every aspect of your life.

    and its not closed system , anyone can travell to cuba
    But can Cubans leave the island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Gothicus View Post
    The problem with communist Cuba never had anything to do with 'children starving', it's the lack of freedom and incentive to improve as a person in every aspect of your life.



    But can Cubans leave the island?
    yes they can , you wont see any cuban be forbiden to go anywhere , not even USA




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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy spong View Post
    yes they can , you wont see any cuban be forbiden to go anywhere , not even USA
    The bureaucratic measures applied to permit a Cuban leaving Cuban are so big that it only makes me wonder Can they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy spong View Post
    yes they can , you wont see any cuban be forbiden to go anywhere , not even USA
    You said this gem and that Fidel Castro has no extra powers over other Cubans...

    Just because you stick your head in the sand and say it's not happening doesn't mean you're right It's also interesting to me you didn't provide a link for your story and it appears to have been rather poorly translated into English, presumably from Spanish.

    Here's the UNICEF page on Cuba:
    Cuba is on track to achieve most of the Millennium Development Goals by 2015 despite having suffered several major recent hurricanes and a devastating drought in its eastern provinces. A tightening of the trade embargo against Cuba has limited shipments of money, food and medicine, impacting infant and maternal mortality rates.


    Issues facing children in Cuba

    Iron deficiency is high among pregnant women and children under two years old. In the eastern provinces, approximately one third of children under age two suffer from anaemia. Cuba has one of the highest rates of obesity among pre-school children in Latin America.
    HIV/AIDS incidence is low and declining. Children represent less than 1 per cent of all AIDS cases.
    Accidental death, for example from traffic accidents or drowning, is the leading cause of childhood mortality.
    Sanitation coverage is above 98 per cent nationally, while access to clean water stands at 95 per cent in urban areas and 78 per cent in rural areas.
    School enrolment rates are above 95 per cent (net), and 99 per cent of children reach the fifth grade or beyond.

    Activities and results for children
    In the drought-hit eastern provinces, UNICEF and the World Food Programme distributed food and improved water delivery for 200,000 women and 500,000 children. Refrigerators and water-conservation devices helped increase food supplies for 6,000 children in Holguin province and for nearly 3,000 children in Granma province.
    UNICEF and its partners procured 100,000 doses of measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, bringing national immunization coverage above 98 per cent. Iron-fortified fruit puree was distributed to 300,000 children at risk of anaemia.
    With help from UNICEF, Cuba has eliminated iodine-deficiency disorders by iodizing all salt.
    UNICEF and several other UN agencies sponsored a diploma course to train local providers in nutrition, accident prevention and domestic relations counselling.
    A strategy to improve the quality of education in rural districts has benefited more than 150,000 students in more than 4,000 primary schools. Delivery of basic supplies improved the learning environment for 4,000 students in the eastern provinces.
    UNICEF provided all of Cuba’s public libraries with a selection of books for children and young people.
    You don't see UNICEF needing to send so much aid to countries like the USA. And 22% of people in rural areas don't have clean water.

    Moved to the Mudpit, by the way.
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    What it took only 40 something years? Ill go ask my 2 cuban friends (One has a grandparents from the bay of pigs). Anyways them not starving dosent mean communism is working. Like even communism can do that much, so long he rules give out food (ANIMAL FARM ANYONE???) I bet the numbers are a little over inflated, but not too much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy spong View Post
    dont lie

    unicef is present in cuba

    and its not closed system , anyone can travell to cuba

    I hereby grant you the Biggest Fail of the year award for this outstndingly fail post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Valle View Post
    When my mom and dad were in Cuba, they were young and were sent off to the "escuelas del campo", basically boardings school set in the middle of the countryside. Their meals for the day were:
    • Breakfast: A cup of milk and coffee with some toast the size of half a typical Wonder-bread slice.
    • Snack: Sneaking off into the locals farmers field to steal tomatoes and corn was routine. Cuba is thankfully a tropical country so fruits grow wild.
    • Snack (cont.): All students were, as part of their education, to pick crops and do general field work. This was a blessing in that you could eat whatever you were working on as soon as you were not being watched.
    • Lunch: Black bean gruel with some rice.
    • Small portions of lentil stews, black bean gruels with rice, most of the time some meat.
    This is back in the the late 70s, when the Soviet nipple was lactating quite generously.
    Remember at that time it was America's policy to starve the people of Cuba, hoping hunger would make then revolt.
    The "Soviet nipple" could not make food magically pass the US blockade.


    Also this report does not mention the amount of debt Cuba is in for importing eighty percent of its food. The entire system is unsustainable and is going to collapse soon. You could argue that the capitalist nations have similar problems with debt, but they at least have the economic capacity to pay it off.
    Cuban external debt: 13.38% of GDP.
    USA external debt: 95% of GDP.

    Note that by representing the debt as % of GDP economic capacity to pay it back is already factored in.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._external_debt

    Also, where did UNICEF get these numbers? Cuba is very much a closed system, where information going out of the island is closely monitored by the secret police and where journalists and bloggers are regularly beaten and imprisoned. Statistics also tend to be made with archaic methods that are incredibly fraudulent and the lack of accessibility to the island make it hard to verify these claims. A shovelful of salt should be used whenever considering Cuban statistics.
    Here you have a point.
    But I seriously doubt UNICEF would trust Cuba's own sources.
    And I'm also pretty sure UNICEF is active in Cuba, so any starving children would simply go to them for food aid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    I think this is missing the point that the communist revolution has turned one of the most fertile islands in N. America, which used to be a major food exporter, into a nation that needs to import large quantiles of food to prevent starvation
    When Batista was in power, Cuba might have been exporting food but not because it was abundant.

    Many Cubans were starving back then, but Batista preferred to sell food for money rather than to "waste" it on his people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nietzsche View Post
    Awesome. It's America's fault that Cuba is a ! Class. Just class.
    Most of Cuba's present day problems are caused by America's trade blockade.
    So yes, it is America's fault.

    If it wasn't for America, Cuba would have been a lot richer today, the Cuban people would have disposed of Castro, and it would have become a democracy a long time ago.
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    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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