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    Why are sex crimes so reviled? Obviously they are bad, but why does society hate the rapist so much more than the murderer or the man who commits GBH? If you want to hear real inventive cruelty ask the average person in the street what should be done to rapists who are found guilty.

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    Because the victim suffers from rape while a dead one does not?

    We don't have empathy for the dead. It's a hard question, overall.
    Last edited by Jabberwock; December 25, 2009 at 08:29 PM.

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    But why more hatred for a rapist than, say, those charming guys who fling acid in peoples' faces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Ferguson View Post
    But why more hatred for a rapist than, say, those charming guys who fling acid in peoples' faces?
    Maybe because it goes against the chauvinistic attitudes in society. Even in today's feminist world there's still vestiges of the times when women are supposed to be protected- that chastity is prized and must be kept until marriage and that all decent men are expected to be defenders of women and all that, since they are "weak."

    So it's not just an offense to the woman, it's an offense to the centuries-old moral values of society, targeting those who "could not defend themselves" It's different from killing say another man, because we have this thinking that "at least men could defend themselves".
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    What do you have against chivalry?
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    What do you have against chivalry?
    I don't, I'm just explaining that these could be reasons why we detest rape more then murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Ferguson View Post
    This the most accurate forum I could find, I aologise if I'm wrong.

    Why are sex crimes so reviled? Obviously they are bad, but why does society hate the rapist so much more than the murderer or the man who commits GBH? If you want to hear real inventive cruelty ask the average person in the street what should be done to rapists who are found guilty.
    Rape is greivous harm, though psychologically as well as bodily, so it is equal if not worse to GBH. And i have never met someone who is less belligerent to murderers than to rapists. Having said that, the serial killer has become romanticised a little, whilst the serial rapist is more sinister.

    What really gets me is paedophobia (fear of paedophiles). There are people, honest atheist people, who would be quite happy to see a paedophile, who had not even harmed a child, literally burned at the stake. It is disgusting really, the hypocrisy of some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post

    What really gets me is paedophobia (fear of paedophiles). There are people, honest atheist people, who would be quite happy to see a paedophile, who had not even harmed a child, literally burned at the stake. It is disgusting really, the hypocrisy of some people.
    This is something I also find distinctly unpleasent. I remember some suspected paedophile being burned to death in a caravan by an angry mob

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    I don't know I think I'd rather be raped than permanently maimed, disfigured or murdered. Being raped may damage you psychologically but it is at least possible to 100% recover from psychological damage.
    Last edited by Helm; December 26, 2009 at 01:03 PM.

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    One theory is that rapists and especialy pedophiles are more likely to commit the crime multiple times, whereas most murders tend to be one time things that a person would not have generally done if not given the circumstances, whatever they may have been at the time, and thus a murderer is more likely to be able to function again in society. Of course there are serial murderers, but they are much less common than say serial rapists. So by this it is only logical that rapists are locked up longer than one may think that their crime may warrant, since they are more likely to lapse back in to their cycle and begin raping again, whereas someone who committed one isolated murder is much less likely to do so.

    As for why it is so hated, it is most likely because it is one person taking complete and utter power over someone else and degrading them to almost unhuman qualities. I don't know if people really hate rapists more than murderers though.
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    The act in sex crimes might not necessarily be worse, but the act isn't the intention in most sex crimes. It's about domination, degradation, perversion and so on; there's always a psychological aspect that's not merely a 'side-effect' but quite often the very reason for the act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manco View Post
    The act in sex crimes might not necessarily be worse, but the act isn't the intention in most sex crimes. It's about domination, degradation, perversion and so on; there's always a psychological aspect that's not merely a 'side-effect' but quite often the very reason for the act.
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    Because not so long ago it would leave you raising a criminal's child.
    thus it will apear it was a succesfull (if despicable) reproductive strategy,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ima Farmathar View Post
    thus it will apear it was a succesfull (if despicable) reproductive strategy,

    No,
    if you consider that such strategys would have developed some 10.000 years ago it can't have been successful.
    Because there are many possibilities that prevent that the baby survives
    the women could kill the baby after birth,
    the family/husband could kill it after birth etc.
    the women could have been left alone by her tribe which would have lead to her certain death.

    The whole Human sexuality and reproduction is optimized for tribal societies and monogamy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Ferguson View Post
    This the most accurate forum I could find, I aologise if I'm wrong.

    Why are sex crimes so reviled? Obviously they are bad, but why does society hate the rapist so much more than the murderer or the man who commits GBH? If you want to hear real inventive cruelty ask the average person in the street what should be done to rapists who are found guilty.
    Because not so long ago it would leave you raising a criminal's child.

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