Ninjas!

**Cheomesh** · December 24, 2009, 08:56 PM

Well not quite, but close. Over the course of 3 turns, I have lost 5 family members in Northern Europe (as Bretons) to assassins I cannot see. Normally (at least in the last two campaigns I've done) assassins show up on the map as any normal unit, and usually fail. But FIVE family members in one go?

M.

**Carados** · December 25, 2009, 03:38 AM

Spies!!
Assassins should find it very hard to kebab your generals if you have even just the one spy attached to them.

Spies are a truly indispensible tool of warfare, especially in highly contensted areas where you have to deal with high unrest.

**Quinn Inuit** · December 25, 2009, 02:35 PM

Definitely. A spy in a city is a great way to keep other spies from causing unrest, and they really do wonders to keep your generals alive.

**debux** · December 30, 2009, 10:09 AM

Holy cow! Infiltrated spies cause unrest? Even in vanilla?

**Slayer of Cliffracers** · December 30, 2009, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by debux

Holy cow! Infiltrated spies cause unrest? Even in vanilla?

Yes they do, I thought everyone knew that. They also cause a lot of unrest. One could theoretically destroy an entire empire with an army of spies without marching an army.

**Carados** · December 30, 2009, 10:26 AM

Yep. Quite an effective way at causing havoc in a factions peripheral settlements, especially with a poor (or absent) governor. Of course, this is also why you need spies yourself as part of a settlements garrison.

**Arbitrary Crusader** · December 30, 2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Cheomesh

Well not quite, but close. Over the course of 3 turns, I have lost 5 family members in Northern Europe (as Bretons) to assassins I cannot see. Normally (at least in the last two campaigns I've done) assassins show up on the map as any normal unit, and usually fail. But FIVE family members in one go?

M.

^^^^^
Found your culprit