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    Default Britain Renews Appeal for China to Spare Inmate’s Life

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/25/wo...tain.html?_r=1

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    LONDON — Five days before a British man is scheduled to be executed in China for heroin smuggling, Prime Minister Gordon Brown has joined members of the man’s family and human rights organizations in renewing appeals for clemency.
    They say Chinese courts failed to give adequate weight to the man’s history of mental disturbance or to his claim that he was duped into carrying the heroin by a drug gang.
    But Chinese officials have rejected the appeals, saying that the execution of the Briton, Akmal Shaikh, 53, will go ahead on Tuesday.
    According to Western human rights groups, the last European to have been executed in China was an Italian, Antonio Riva, who was shot by a firing squad in 1951, along with a Japanese man, Ruichi Yamaguchi, after being convicted of involvement in what China alleged was an American plot to assassinate Mao Zedong and other high-ranking Communist officials.
    The relatively rare use of the death penalty against non-Chinese citizens contrasts with China’s frequent use of capital punishment against its own citizens, which has drawn severe criticism from human rights advocates within China and abroad for many years. Amnesty International estimated that at least 1,700 court-ordered executions were carried out in 2008, more than in any other country. Other human rights groups have put the figure much higher, in some cases as high as several thousand.
    The case of Mr. Shaikh, a former manager of a London minicab company who was born in Pakistan and moved to Britain at age 11, has prompted unusually broad protests.
    Family members and the British chapter of the human rights group Reprieve, which runs a worldwide campaign against the death penalty, have said that Mr. Shaikh has a long history of unstable behavior linked to bipolar disorder, which they say has manifested itself in recurrent episodes in which he has become a fantasist. They have said that his journey to China in August 2007 resulted from his belief that he could start a career as a pop star, although he had no previous experience as a singer.
    According to his older brother, Akbar Shaikh, the younger Mr. Shaikh was a devoted family man who “seemed to go off the rails” after his first marriage failed, and he moved to Poland, saying he planned to set up an airline.
    Later, family members have said, his ambitions shifted to a singing career. The family has released a recording of a song Mr. Shaikh wrote while he was in Poland that they say demonstrates that he was delusional. The song, promoting global harmony, includes the lines “Come, little rabbit, come and play/Come, little rabbit, let us sing.”
    According to the family, two men Mr. Shaikh met in Poland suggested that he travel to the Central Asian republic of Tajikistan and from there to Urumqi in western China, where they said there was a nightclub where he could promote his singing career. But when Mr. Shaikh and his new companions went to the airport in Dushanbe, the capital of Tajikistan, the men told him that there was only one seat available on the flight to Urumqi, and that Mr. Shaikh should take it and check one of his companions’ suitcases on the flight.
    It was in this suitcase, Reprieve has said, that customs officials at Urumqi found nearly nine pounds of heroin. Chinese law imposes the death penalty for anyone found smuggling more than 50 grams of heroin, less than two ounces.
    In October 2008, the court that sentenced Mr. Shaikh to death met for less than half an hour. Efforts by Reprieve and lawyers for the Shaikh family to have the court order a full psychiatric assessment were rejected, and a British forensic psychiatrist who traveled to Urumqi on Reprieve’s behalf was denied access to Mr. Shaikh and to the trial.
    The death sentence was confirmed this week by the Supreme People’s Court, prompting new appeals to Chinese leaders by Prime Minister Brown and the British foreign minister, David Miliband. Officials at 10 Downing Street said a letter by Mr. Brown focused on the possibility that Mr. Shaikh had been tricked into carrying the drugs. The Foreign Office said it was “alarmed and deeply concerned” by aspects of the case, including the court’s failure to order a psychiatric examination.
    Hopes that Mr. Shaikh might win a reprieve dimmed when a Chinese Foreign Ministry official said at a news conference in Beijing on Tuesday that “the relevant rights and interests of the defendant were fully respected and guaranteed” by China’s judicial authorities, and that “drug smuggling is a grave crime in international practice.”
    Mr. Shaikh’s children responded with a new appeal. “Our father has been seriously ill for much of his life, and we would be devastated to lose him in these circumstances,” they said. “We respectfully hope that, particularly during the holiday season, the Chinese people will show their great capacity for compassion and humanity and grant him a reprieve.”


    Akmal Shaikh is a British citizen held in China for drug-running, scheduled to be put to death by the Chinese Government.

    Do you believe he deserves the death penalty?

    An unfortunate story on Christmas day

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    this is a shame,I hope the Chinese government change their mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babur View Post
    this is a shame,I hope the Chinese government change their mind
    i hope not
    drug runners are scum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    i hope not
    drug runners are scum
    and what if he was tricked into drug running?

    Shaikh has a mental illness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    i hope not
    drug runners are scum
    Actually, they tend to be ordinary people lured into it for a quick profit, some even forced to do it, and a death sentence here is way overblown - I guess you'll get that in China for the smallest 'offence'...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
    Wow, okay. 4 kilos IS A LOT of heroin.

    By the way, is there any reason why the British haven't submitted any paperwork proving or citing previous records of mental illness?
    The chinese government DENIED visitors, especially western. So if you can multiply here, you'll notice it will be hard to submit any paperwork if you don't have anything concrete to work with, such as an interview with a psychologist. The chinese knew, and made sure as hell that no one would be able to do it. Unsurprisingly...

    In any case, death for this act? I'd understand if he had killed someone, despite not even knowing it due to his mental state, but in a civilized country stuff like this normally gives you a couple of years in jail, at most.

    Anyway, they killed him yesterday, so there is nothing more to discuss here...
    Last edited by Holger Danske; December 30, 2009 at 04:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Actually, they tend to be ordinary people lured into it for a quick profit, some even forced to do it, and a death sentence here is way overblown - I guess you'll get that in China for the smallest 'offence'...

    ...
    no excuse
    there are better ways to make $$, it aint exactly hard in any capitalist society; 4 kgs of ing heroin is a guaranteed death sentence in most asian countries.
    heroin is extremely addictive-i wont lose sleep over one less drug smuggler-in fact, i'll be sure to toast it tomorrow night on NYE.

    i dont get how someone can be 'forced' to do it
    was there someone holding his family hostage making him do it? nup
    no, the only 'threat' there was to mr 'i carry a british passport' , was the lack of hundreds of thousands of $$$ from the sale of illicit drugs.

    secondly, as far as 'diplomatic rows' go, this aint going to go anywhere, except the media circle jerk that this new years eve story has become.
    are the british gov. in the fiscal hole they're currently in, going to stop trading with a key financial trading partner? over some :wub: who was smuggling ing heroin?
    Last edited by Exarch; December 30, 2009 at 05:19 AM.

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    Default Re: Britain Renews Appeal for China to Spare Inmate’s Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Actually, they tend to be ordinary people lured into it for a quick profit, some even forced to do it, and a death sentence here is way overblown - I guess you'll get that in China for the smallest 'offence'...
    They made a choice and they have to face the consequences of that choice. If they don't want to end up in prison, then don't take the chance.

    The death sentence for smuggling drugs is harsh, but again, he made a choice and had to face the consequences. Besides, who is dumb enough to want to smuggle drugs or anything other for that matter into China, when all the world know how harsh their judicial system and laws are.
    Last edited by Tiberios; December 30, 2009 at 07:13 AM.

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    I knew the cultural marxists would desperately try to claim he was british meh I hate our politics

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    @boofhead
    No, I'm just questioning why they wouldn't allow it.

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    Nothing wrong with appealing, but we shouldn't be surprised if the Chinese don't grant it. They are a sovereign state after all, and we're no longer in the period when the loss of some guy's ear leads to war.

    edit:^ He has a mental illness? Hopefully the Chinese courts take this into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwatersix View Post
    edit:^ He has a mental illness? Hopefully the Chinese courts take this into consideration.
    I doubt that they will take it into consideration
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    I feel sorry for this man. He's scheduled to get popped on Dec.29.

    He's obviously mentally ill from what I've been reading - thought he was going to become a superstar etc.

    I think the UK should threaten all sorts of things to save this man's life and get him back home to his loved ones. If they don't, they have his blood on their hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pious Agnost View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/25/wo...tain.html?_r=1



    Akmal Shaikh is a British citizen held in China
    ahh, a classic british name
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    ahh, a classic british name
    It said British citizen.

    This mans impending death is seriously imminent. Things must be done now for him, whatever his heritage may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    ahh, a classic british name
    Define British name.

    Gwynned? Edward? Patrick?

    Aaaaaanyway.

    What exactly are you implying?

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    I think the death penalty is wrong for almost any crime, but the fact is this: if ordinary chinese citizens are subject to these laws, why should one foreigner be treated any differently? Of course, I encourage them to make an appeal, as he could very well have been duped into this, but if he's found guilty then he should be punished according to Chinese law, whether we agree with it or not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pious Agnost View Post
    Define British name.

    Gwynned? Edward? Patrick?

    Aaaaaanyway.

    What exactly are you implying?
    I liked this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle_Bombs View Post
    I think the death penalty is wrong for almost any crime, but the fact is this: if ordinary chinese citizens are subject to these laws, why should one foreigner be treated any differently? Of course, I encourage them to make an appeal, as he could very well have been duped into this, but if he's found guilty then he should be punished according to Chinese law, whether we agree with it or not.




    I liked this.
    he's dead now though, so it's too late...
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    He is a drug-runner, then he deserves the death. Mental illness? It seems to be a good excuse. But since he is judged by Chinese court, it is China's law and Chinese judges decide how to think about it but not you.
    The only fault is he should not ran drug in China, he should have done that in Britain.

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    exactly how is one duped into smuggling heroin of all ing things into China?!

    this is really up there with the darwin awards alright; with this level of stupidity, he should be executed so that his genetic stupidity wont contaminate future generations.

    ^ as harsh as i may sound, i do feel empathy for anyone in such a position

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    exactly how is one duped into smuggling heroin of all ing things into China?!
    well this guy had a mental illness, such people do exist you know

    this is really up there with the darwin awards alright; with this level of stupidity, he should be executed so that his genetic stupidity wont contaminate future generations.
    I thought that eugenics was out of fashion
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