Disney's The Princess and the Frog.

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    Sir Winston Churchill said: December 23, 2009 03:30 PM

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    I have no idea why so many people compliment that movie because of Disney's "First" black princess and breaks some kind of race barrier when such a stereotypical-looking character just goes unnoticed.

    I mean admit it, the guy looks like a pimp.

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    Doctor Facilier, aka "The Shadow Man", the main antagonist of the film. He was originally named "Doctor Duvalier" and was a voodoo magician and fortune teller.[citation needed] He is both a palm reader and a voodoo practitioner who tricks Naveen (by using deliberately misleading slang) into making a deal with him that turns the prince into a frog.
    Vodoo? Slang? Tricking? None of this is stereotypical to blacks?
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    Dust be in Thy Mouth, Infidel! said: December 23, 2009 03:32 PM

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    Should go to the Arts section?
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    ALZU said: December 23, 2009 03:33 PM

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    Sure, now they have Obama they can turn everything to black! Revolution!
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    Kamos said: December 23, 2009 03:36 PM

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    I don't find this very progressive at all, everyone acknowledges Blacks these days.
    If they want to show me they're progressive they need to put in a Hispanic Satanist princess.
     

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    skh1 said: December 23, 2009 03:51 PM

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    I won't go see it but it will presumably be more sensitive than Song of the South.
     

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    Sir Winston Churchill said: December 23, 2009 03:55 PM

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    I won't go see it but it will presumably be more sensitive than Song of the South.
    At least that was a good movie. It might just be because I was really young when I last saw it but I honestly didn't see anything in there that was racist.

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    skh1 said: December 23, 2009 04:30 PM

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    I suppose it's matter of interpretation and, in placed within its original context of 1946, perhaps not. The NAACP was reasonably OK with it back then but decried its somewhat benign depiction of the Peculiar Institution. It's certainly not Birth of a Nation but I don't believe it has aged well. The main character Uncle Remus makes me cringe but maybe that's just me.
    Anyway, a cursory google of The Princess and the Frog bears out your main point. It sems to brewing up quite a controversy. But then so did Alladin when it first came out as I recall. It will be interesting to see how it develops.
     

  8. SturmChurro said: December 23, 2009 04:36 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamos View Post
    I don't find this very progressive at all, everyone acknowledges Blacks these days.
    If they want to show me they're progressive they need to put in a Hispanic Satanist princess.
    they should!

    But really, this movie does not even look good IMO, they should have made the setting in Africa. It would be more historically and regionally correct.

    [EDIT] Where is the setting anyway?
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    skh1 said: December 23, 2009 04:42 PM

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    New Orleans
     

  10. SturmChurro said: December 23, 2009 04:47 PM

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    New Orleans
    ..NEW ORLEANS!! That is in United States there is no monarchy here! That Prince is only going to marry her for publicity!
     

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    Pontifex Maximus said: December 23, 2009 05:00 PM

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    Moved to the arts
     

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    Sher Khan said: December 23, 2009 05:14 PM

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    The Prince is an actual prince from a made-up foreign country who's in New Orleans and courts a parvenu girl, but falls instead for a dreamer (who gets crowned princess of Mardi Gras, so not a real princess).

    The villain is not a stereotype, it's Baron Samedi.
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    Dr. Croccer said: December 24, 2009 08:16 AM

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    I don't really see the issue here. The plot's about a black girl in early 20th century New Orleans who is made Princess of Mardi Gras and who is mistakenly kissed by a frog/prince from a fictional country. And the villain in question, as Sher Khan already noted, is a voodoo magician, based on Haitian Loa. Hardly offensive, if anything, it's a far-fetched plot.

    Vodoo? Slang? Tricking? None of this is stereotypical to blacks?
    No.

    I mean admit it, the guy looks like a pimp.
    No, he looks like am Haitian/Lousiana voodoo priest, which he probably is, going from his name, actions and appearances.
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