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    Default Would I be classed as a weak or a strong atheist?

    This would be the break down of what I believe in.

    Chance that an intelligent creator doesn't exist= 99.9%
    Chance that the God of the bible doesn't exist= 100%
    Chance that an eternal heavenly afterlife doesn't exist= 99.9~%
    Chance that an eternal afterlife of some description doesn't exist= 99.5%
    Chance that we will not be reborn/reincarnated based on karma= 99%

    Would I need 100% in all categories to be a strong atheist or is this good enough?

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    Default Re: Would I be classed as a weak or a strong atheist?

    You're a strong atheist with regards to the Biblical God and a weak atheist with regards to, say, a deist God and a 'buddhist' God and the like.

    The extent of your atheism usually differs in respect to the definition of 'God' we're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    This would be the break down of what I believe in.

    Chance that an intelligent creator doesn't exist= 99.9%
    Chance that the God of the bible doesn't exist= 100%
    Chance that an eternal heavenly afterlife doesn't exist= 99.9~%
    Chance that an eternal afterlife of some description doesn't exist= 99.5%
    Chance that we will not be reborn/reincarnated based on karma= 99%

    Would I need 100% in all categories to be a strong atheist or is this good enough?
    I really don't understand why you even posted this thread because the answer is quite obvious. =/

    That being you are an extremely extreme Atheist.

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    But no-one gets called an extremely extreme Christian/Muslim or whatever for believeing in their God 100%...

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    But no-one gets called an extremely extreme Christian/Muslim or whatever for believeing in their God 100%...
    Thats because there arent any helm. There are normal people and there are people who suffer from denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    But no-one gets called an extremely extreme Christian/Muslim or whatever for believeing in their God 100%...
    They're usually called fanatics by haters.

    They're usually called devout by neutrals.

    They're usually called benevolent by brothers/sisters.

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    Thinking about it I suppose an extremely extreme Christian would be a Creationist and an extremely extreme Muslim a Jihadist.

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    Your a strong atheist. Being an Atheist, let it be strong or weak is really up to your choice on what you want to be. For me, an weak atheist is someone who 70% doesn't believe god exist. Your 99.9%. So yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    Would I need 100% in all categories to be a strong atheist?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    or is this good enough?
    Any percentage would do; assigning values of probability to the supernatural is a "faith" based operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaga Shu Ra View Post
    No.



    Any percentage would do; assigning values of probability to the supernatural is a "faith" based operation.
    In my case it isn't faith but doubt.

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    Do you believe in god? Any kind of god. If you do not, then it is enough.

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    Atheism is a very misunderstood and misused term. Atheism means not believing in any god, higher being, supernatural power, etc. however Atheism is commonly used if you don't believe in the monotheistic god(which means neither a Christian, Muslim or Jew). for example some Buddhist sects don't believe in god at all, Buddha by the way is not really a "god", he was a real person who taught his wisdom. some Taoists in China don't actually believe that Lao Tzu is a god, but they still practice common Taoist practices such as Alchemy, various Exercises, Meditation, etc. you can even be a Pagan, believing in many gods but not 1 power, or in the Shinto's Kamis which aren't really gods in the conventional usage of the term.

    if you don't believe in anything at all than you can be considered an Atheist. but even than I'd argue that there's just so much you don't even know, such as most of the examples I've written above, thus you can't really rule out something you don't know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd View Post
    Atheism is a very misunderstood and misused term. Atheism means not believing in any god, higher being, supernatural power, etc. however Atheism is commonly used if you don't believe in the monotheistic god(which means neither a Christian, Muslim or Jew). for example some Buddhist sects don't believe in god at all, Buddha by the way is not really a "god", he was a real person who taught his wisdom. some Taoists in China don't actually believe that Lao Tzu is a god, but they still practice common Taoist practices such as Alchemy, various Exercises, Meditation, etc. you can even be a Pagan, believing in many gods but not 1 power, or in the Shinto's Kamis which aren't really gods in the conventional usage of the term.

    if you don't believe in anything at all than you can be considered an Atheist. but even than I'd argue that there's just so much you don't even know, such as most of the examples I've written above, thus you can't really rule out something you don't know...
    I'd argue that we are all agnostics at our rational core, being the fact there is no physical evidence for a deity of any sort, so thus we can not prove it exists or not; but for simplicity atheists would not believe in any deity, and theists believe in deities. Although I think Huxley's quote nicely summarizes it.
    When I reached intellectual maturity, and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist or a pantheist, a materialist or an idealist, a Christian or a freethinker, I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer. The one thing on which most of these good people were agreed was the one thing in which I differed from them. They were quite sure they had attained a certain 'gnosis' — had more or less successfully, solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure that I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble. -Thomas Henry Huxley
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    Default Re: Would I be classed as a weak or a strong atheist?

    You are a 6.9 (out of 7) on the spectrum of theistic probability.

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    Default Re: Would I be classed as a weak or a strong atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    This would be the break down of what I believe in.

    Chance that an intelligent creator doesn't exist= 99.9%
    Chance that the God of the bible doesn't exist= 100%
    Chance that an eternal heavenly afterlife doesn't exist= 99.9~%
    Chance that an eternal afterlife of some description doesn't exist= 99.5%
    Chance that we will not be reborn/reincarnated based on karma= 99%

    Would I need 100% in all categories to be a strong atheist or is this good enough?
    that's kind of weak bro...if you not a 100% believer at all you're not a true believer...weak faith man..

    don't let dawkins find out or the science inquisition will burn you alive bro...

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    Default Re: Would I be classed as a weak or a strong atheist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boyar Son View Post
    that's kind of weak bro...if you not a 100% believer at all you're not a true believer...weak faith man..

    don't let dawkins find out or the science inquisition will burn you alive bro...
    Actually, Richard Dawkins has specifically and repeatedly stated that he does not have a 100% belief that there is no God. He, much like Helm, thinks that the probability of there not being a God is extremely low, but he says that he can't be sure that there could be no such entity.

    He even explains this on the first few pages of the God Delusion. Then again, to know that people would have to actually read his book before making false assumptions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    This would be the break down of what I believe in.

    Chance that an intelligent creator doesn't exist= 99.9%
    Chance that the God of the bible doesn't exist= 100%
    Chance that an eternal heavenly afterlife doesn't exist= 99.9~%
    Chance that an eternal afterlife of some description doesn't exist= 99.5%
    Chance that we will not be reborn/reincarnated based on karma= 99%

    Would I need 100% in all categories to be a strong atheist or is this good enough?
    You're not an atheist whatsoever, you're a bloody agnostic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    You're not an atheist whatsoever, you're a bloody agnostic.
    Ah, there's the agnosticism BS again. No, he isn't agnostic, since he did not hint God is unknowable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iudas View Post
    Ah, there's the agnosticism BS again. No, he isn't agnostic, since he did not hint God is unknowable.
    You have fundamentally misunderstood the word angnostic. It does not necessarily indicate that God is unknowable, but also that God is unknown. And if he is not 100% sure that God does not exist then he is no atheist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    You have fundamentally misunderstood the word angnostic. It does not necessarily indicate that God is unknowable, but also that God is unknown. And if he is not 100% sure that God does not exist then he is no atheist.
    He posted ing probabilities... It helps reading sometimes.

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