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    Default Re: Townhall - Curial Commentary and Chat

    I don't really mind them being posted by the permabanned user xxxxx, but I also don't really care if it does get reposted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Commodus View Post
    For another detail, what do people think of replacing the subsequent constitution posts? Having myself (or a Censor, or a Hex) do the constitution posts after the first so they aren't marked by a permabanned removeduser that doesn't even clue in 'oh it's ferrets' anymore.
    It would not hurt to repost them. The area needs a clean up anyway.
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    Is there a reason why the Constitution is still forum based, rather than wiki based like the ToS?
    I believe wiki is better at tracking actual changes made. It seems like a better option.

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    This is very possible. A draft page could be created and submitted to Curia vote, and put the page in line with other 'official' site information. It might have to be protected though, or at least monitored with vigilance. An odd change there could cause much more mischief than an odd change to the FAQ.

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    The page can be locked except for specific users like the consul and his merry band of censors, or it can be set to automatically revert to the previous version if it's tampered with. There's a bunch of ways to protect it.

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    Protection does not look that simple I'm afraid, had a chat with Mac in addition to the latest of the Commentary. Any protection would be tedious technical work we probably won't get or just boil down to vigilance on the page. If there's a specific mediawiki feature built in not requiring file access to manage though, open to hearing about it.

    Lack of any proper wiki/forum integration rears its head here...

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    Lack of any proper wiki/forum integration rears its head here...
    That's at least some form of movement around here.
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    Well gents, should I remake the poll and do it right this time or will we just let it happen?

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    IIRC the poll settings are not constitutionally mandated, just consular conventions. The only reason I'd see for redoing the poll is the grammatical mistake in the title.
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    Constitutionally citizens are 'not allowed' to see the results until the end of the poll. I don't know, maybe we can institute a 'no peeking' rule here...

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    Is that better?

    (I've changed the poll settings so that the results should only appear at the end of the vote. Whether the poll should be restarted or not is a question for the Consul and the Curia.)






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    Oh, well then. If it's fixed we probably don't need to mess with it, ei? Anything could happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Commodus View Post
    Well gents, should I remake the poll and do it right this time or will we just let it happen?
    Nah, not worth it. Honestly I don't even know why we need a poll for this since it's pure janitorial work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iskar View Post
    IIRC the poll settings are not constitutionally mandated, just consular conventions. The only reason I'd see for redoing the poll is the grammatical mistake in the title.
    They're necessary for actually divisive issues, like an Ostrakon, where accusations of influencing the voters can lead to demands for a re-vote. I told mostly so he would know for when a situation like that pops up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Adrian View Post
    Nah, not worth it. Honestly I don't even know why we need a poll for this since it's pure janitorial work.
    To be quite honest, this little instance is a perfect reason. Better I get the whole 'wait, I've never made a poll with vb' derp out of the way than to perform it on (as you then mention) a more important matter >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iskar View Post
    IIRC the poll settings are not constitutionally mandated, just consular conventions. The only reason I'd see for redoing the poll is the grammatical mistake in the title.
    That only Citizen apps have public votes and the rest anonymous is due to precedence I think, but it does say in the constitution that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Commodus View Post
    Well gents, should I remake the poll and do it right this time or will we just let it happen?
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    Vonc indeed, but before that it is Election Time for your latest terms of service jani- judging person.
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    I know there are a couple of citizens who is playing Skyrim cannot download and install my mods via the in-game mod manager anymore, because I decided to delete all of them and the main reason is this.
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    What does that have to do with the Curia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akar View Post
    What does that have to do with the Curia?
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