Townhall - Curial Commentary and Chat

[PikeStance]

I supposed newer faces are intimidated by a veteran. A shame really, I would be much more inclined to vote for a newer face for the Censor position. I believe I am alone with this sentiment.

[Belthasar Bolton]

Gentlemen, please note that both Weierstrass and Sirlion have joined the ranks of citizens.

Congrats and welcome!

[La♔De♔Da♔Brigadier Graham]

A jolly good welcome indeed

[Lifthrasir]

Congratz guys and welcome on board

[Swiss Halberdier]

Congratulations to Weierstrass and Sirlion! Well deserved!

[Iskar]

I supposed newer faces are intimidated by a veteran. A shame really, I would be much more inclined to vote for a newer face for the Censor position. I believe I am alone with this sentiment.

Hopefully. Blaming the one guy offering to fill the position for a lack of other applications, in particular if it is someone as friendly and civil as Veteraan, is a pretty cheap shot.

[♔atthias♔]

Hopefully. Blaming the one guy offering to fill the position for a lack of other applications, in particular if it is someone as friendly and civil as Veteraan, is a pretty cheap shot.

pike means it sarcastically I think congrats to you for being magistrate Iskar sorry that I wasn't there to vote I may have done it don't know but if I have not my apologies RL is messing me up badly ATMcongrats to sirloin and weierstrass for becoming citizenssorry for the bad formatting (internet explorer is a bad browser :No: )brew can you or others fix it please?

[PikeStance]

Wow, talk about your cheap shots. Here I am trying to encourage new faces to apply and I get an attack. Perhaps you want the same old people over and over again. In an ideal world, we will have new faces every cycle. One can dream. I guess not you. To each his own.



DISCLAIMER: The above is a facetious passive-aggressive response.

[Iskar]

Maybe try encouraging other people without talking badly about the guy currently running for the office then? It's not a zero-sum game, you can motivate new-comers without badmouthing the veterans.

And maybe you can reply without making assumptions about what other people want or are able to do.

[PikeStance]

I didn’t say a word about Veteraan. You need to re-read what I wrote. I spoke about other people.

[Commissar Caligula_]

Besides non-citizens are not supposed to attempt to sway citizens at all, especially in the case of applications.

See this post, and the next four/five onwards. Imo its basically the same as the applicant's paragraph. A Non-Citizen voicing their opinion, but they don't get an actual vote.

[Halie Satanus]

A Non-Citizen voicing their opinion, but they don't get an actual vote.

That is correct, they don't. Life is hard, but goes on. (Actually, mish is a citizen, resigned, who can claim it back any time)..

[Pontifex Maximus]

Such an interesting thing, resignation of citizenship. I think it should never be construed as a shield to the strictures of citizenship, should it ever be renewed.

[Ngugi]

For the record mishkin's citizenship was revoked by the Triumvirate (referral 2016-8 in Quaestiones Perpetuae), not a mere lack of usegroup usage. In order to become Citizen again a new application is required.

[Veteraan]

Such an interesting thing, resignation of citizenship. I think it should never be construed as a shield to the strictures of citizenship, should it ever be renewed.

Well, there are some rules about it:

Reinstatement of Citizenship will only be permitted if the petitioner has no active Curial suspensions, and has not received a Moderation Warning (subsequent to the resignation) within six months of the request. Members who resign their Citizen status are not bound by the obligations of Citizenship whilst on leave, but any misbehaviour prior to a request of reinstatement can be subject to Referral (if the petitioner is readmitted).

Probably not entirely waterproof, especially when a long time has passed since a Citizen has resigned at the moment they ask to be readmitted. However, it is possible to refer a Citizen for something they did whilst "on leave".

[Halie Satanus]

For the record mishkin's citizenship was revoked by the Triumvirate (referral 2016-8 in Quaestiones Perpetuae), not a mere lack of usegroup usage. In order to become Citizen again a new application is required.

I didn't know that. I thought he'd resigned. That changes things..

A Non-Citizen voicing their opinion, but they don't get an actual vote.

A disgraced former citizen. His opinion is irrelevant.

[Commissar Caligula_]

You might think that, others might find the opinion useful.

[Ngugi]

Disgraced isn't the case (gladly), it was simply on request, as that was the only avilable solution for a complete revocation: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...OF-CITIZENSHIP

[Halie Satanus]

Disgraced isn't the case (gladly), it was simply on request, as that was the only avilable solution for a complete revocation: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...OF-CITIZENSHIP

He was disgraced, the whole revocation was based on behaviour unbecoming. Or he resigned (can't have it both ways), but went about it with a dash of extra drama queen (the revocation is not constitutional, so meaningless despite it's fabulous intention).

He can still claim it back. However, given his leanings since it's removal I doubt he'd pass now any way.

[Ngugi]

"Disgraceful" is not by default the same as thing as "unbecoming"; and if you personally define the desire to not remain a citizen, or loss of citizenship in itself, disgraceful I must admit I never knew you for having such sore toes, Halie, hehe. What do you call it when someone does something actually unethical and offensive?

I must assume you by claim mean if the revocation is appealed to the Curia, or Hex if to act outside of the constitution, and in that process overturned. Until such an event the Citizenship is de facto revoked (in difference to just resigned) and the option is constrained to apply trough a patron again as any other peregrinus peer of his.
(annoying spelling btw, with -k- in revoke but -c- in revocation ^^)